Obama, Romney clash in debate
Wed, 17 Oct 2012 3:40p.m.
By 3 News online staff with AP
President Barack Obama and Mitt Romney had a number of pointed exchanges during the second presidential debate, pointing fingers and often speaking over one another while challenging each other on policy.
Without a desk between them, the candidates approached each other on stage at one point during a discussion on energy.
As Romney answered a question on gas prices and oil drilling, Obama stood up and moved toward his Republican challenger. Romney turned to the president's direction and they quarrelled as they stood only a few feet apart.
At one point, Obama sharply rejected Romney's arguments, saying, "Not true, Gov. Romney."
When Obama interjected with his energy positions, Romney responded, "You'll get your chance ... I'm still speaking."
Here’s what they said on the different issues – when they got the chance.
Obama and Romney offered their jobs agenda at the start of the second presidential debate, responding to a college student concerned about finding a job after graduation.
Romney told the student that his question was one that's being asked by college students across the nation. He said his administration would try to make it easier for students to afford college and promote economic growth to help students.
Romney says the nation faces more debt and fewer jobs. He says, quote, "I'm going to change that."
Obama says he would build upon the 5 million private sector jobs created during his first term, pushing for more manufacturing jobs. The president said his policies aimed to improve the education system and promote a variety of energy sources.
Tax and debt
Both candidates say their tax plans would benefit the middle class and spur job creation, and both are suggesting their opponent's plan would do the opposite.
Romney says cutting tax rates across the board would spur job growth. He says bringing rates down makes it easy for small businesses to keep more of their capital and hire more workers.
But Obama, who supports raising tax rates on upper incomes, says Romney's proposed tax cuts and his calls for increased military spending would add trillions to the federal debt.
Obama said to Romney, a former businessman, "You wouldn't have taken such a sketchy deal."
He says the American people shouldn't accept that deal either.
Romney says his rival "has not been Mr. Oil or Mr. Gas or Mr. Coal."
However Obama says he wants US energy policy to look ahead 20 or 30 years, and not just look at what lowers the cost right away. The president says he's all for oil and natural gas, but will not focus on them exclusively at the peril of renewable energy sources that could create thousands of jobs.
Romney says Obama has fought new energy exploration on federal lands and that Americans have faced higher energy costs as a result.
Romney asked how he differs from Bush
A voter during the town hall-style debate asked Romney how he was different than Bush, who left office deeply unpopular. Romney says that he would govern under different conditions that would allow him to make North America energy independent from Arab and Venezuelan oil. He also says he would crack down on China's currency manipulation and cut the deficit by increasing trade.
Obama was ready with a quick retort. He says Romney, unlike Bush, would cut funding to Planned Parenthood and that Romney would pursue a more stringent immigration policy than Bush did.
Pay equity for women
Responding to a question about pay equity for women, Obama notes that the first piece of legislation he signed made it easier for women to seek the same pay as men for doing the same work.
Romney says that as governor of Massachusetts, his administration had a number of women in senior leadership positions. He says many women have suffered job losses and moved into poverty during Obama's tenure and that creating more jobs would help women.
The president questioned Romney's commitment to women's health care, pointing to the Republican's vow to eliminate funding for Planned Parenthood. He calls health care a "pocket book issue" for women and families.
Romney accuses Obama of failing to reform the immigration system during his first term.
Romney says during the second presidential debate that the nation needs to stop illegal immigration, noting that 4 million people are trying to gain American citizenship legally. He says he won't grant amnesty to people who come to the U.S. illegally.
Obama says Romney has opposed the DREAM Act, a failed bill that would have provided a path to legal status for many young illegal immigrants.
He says Republicans in Congress have been unwilling to support comprehensive immigration reform and won't in the future with Romney as the "standard-bearer" of his party.
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18/10/2012 12:26:38 a.m.
As much as i dislike Key at least hes not as insanely crooked as Romney, Romney takes it to a extreme new level, right down to out sourcing jobs to china while pretending to get tough on China, saying he doesn't believe in abortion while his bain company owns a company that provides a service for the disposal of fetuses, the list goes on and on and on, you would be amazed how big of a shameless liar he is.
17/10/2012 9:30:16 p.m.
i am not sure why anyone would dislike john keys leadership, he is such a good prime minister, times are just tough, but look at what the oppisistion wants to do, national has halved our debt, you should be glad.
17/10/2012 4:42:52 p.m.
Just a though. Mitt Romney likes to talk about unemployment in America a lot. I wonder what he would say about unemployment in NZ under Key's leadership?
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