Opinion: Is our economy collapsing?

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Fri, 09 Nov 2012 8:58a.m.

Duncan says Key needs to forget 'gay' red shirts, comments about ‘batsh*t’ and what he knew or didn't know about Dotcom

Duncan says Key needs to forget 'gay' red shirts, comments about ‘batsh*t’ and what he knew or didn't know about Dotcom

Are the latest unemployment numbers a winter blip or a sign of something much more serious?

I think it’s the latter.

Unemployment is at 7.3 percent – that’s a whopping 175,000 people unemployed which is an additional 13,000 more than just three months ago.

That means $449 million less tax revenue in just three months. Companies aren't hiring. People aren't getting pay rises.

We've got the wobbles and it's not because we were speeding. Why?

The world has softened: Europe has tanked, China has slowed, so has Australia and we are in trouble.

Our two big trading partners have pulled the handbrake so, combined with the high kiwi dollar, our exporters – who are our employers - are struggling.

In 2009 the Prime Minister spoke of an aggressive recovery. His offsider - the less sunny Bill English, talks about grumpy growth. You decide who you believe.

The Prime Minister's optimism and ambition is to be applauded but it simply hasn't happened. A reality check is needed and he got it yesterday.

He should not have been so “surprised” at yesterday's numbers.

To be surprised is simply not good enough. It doesn't fit his political script or his sunny outlook.

The Government says the Quarterly Employment Survey compared to the Household Labour Force Survey was showing more positive signs apparently.

That's why Key was surprised. The funny thing is, the Government ignored the Quarterly Survey last week when it showed manufacturing jobs had collapsed by 40,000.

The Government promised 170,000 new jobs over four years in 2010. Where are we at? Bill English told me yesterday he has no idea and that he'll tell us in December.

So Labour has crunched the numbers.

“John Key needs 48,125 more people employed to be on track to fulfil his election promise to create 170,000 more jobs," says Labour's Finance spokesperson David Parker.

"National promised 170,000 more jobs. They are way behind. They needed 53,125 more people to be employed over the past five quarters to be on target. They only had 5,000. They need an astonishing 48,125 more people employed to be on track. Not that they would know it,” he says.

Labour's answer is to support manufacturing somehow, change the Reserve Bank's focus and bring in a capital gains tax.

As one economist said to me this morning: “Where is Labour? That won't change much - and it's certainly no step-change”.

So where to from here?

Key says now is not the time to change course. But economists are all largely saying the economy has gone into a fragile state.

Ganesh Nana predicted this scenario months ago.

“Without changes to our policy settings, the short term picture is not pretty, with our models projecting even further rises in jobless numbers,” he said.

A change of course is urgently required if New Zealand is to avoid yet another damaging recession.

The Government was shell-shocked by yesterday's numbers, but it's praying with its fingers crossed that things come right.

It's risky. The expensive tax cuts from three years ago have had little impact.

Christchurch needs to be rebuilt fast and Auckland has alarmingly softened, although its house prices haven't.

That's seriously concerning, especially when your second largest city is in rubble.

Forget gay red shirts, comments about ‘batsh*t’ and what Key knew or didn't know about Dotcom.

This blows all that away in terms of importance. This is fundamental. This is the serious stuff.

It's people's lives, their jobs, their mortgages, their families, their hopes, their dreams and their security.

It's the economy, stupid. It wins and loses elections.

The Prime Minister's sole focus needs to be the economy.

If he can't turn this around or halt the slide - National will likely lose the Treasury benches in 2014.

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28/11/2012 4:14:23 p.m.

Mike wrote:

@Samantha

"owners are netting massive incomes"

Take 2009 when Labour complained that farmers paid an average of just over $1500 in income tax! Yes we can see the owners are really raking in massive incomes! Put it next to a single unemployment benefit without additional allowances and you find they are similar. It takes around 1.8 people working for the average farm, ie long hours or more than one person (ie family), or both.

Where is this massive income? It is a Labour myth and your more likely to come face to face with a live Taniwha or live Moa in the street than to see high incomes from farmers!

This lead to Labours claim that revenue=profit. Anyone with a brain or anyone involvement with business will tell you that is garbage too.

The reality is NZ farmers have some of the lowest incomes around, mostly they are self employed and working well below min-wage, and doing it successfully for decades. NZ has the most productive Dairying in the world, which allows NZ to do well on the low paid farmers at the base.

Warners is a example of larger business attracted here, much due to the good job done with Lord of the Rings. Labour already had given the 15% rebate, and then their friendly buddies the NZ Actors guild fronted for overseas interest in an effort to get the NZ production canned.

$460 mil already spent on production of the Hobbit before release, most of which paid in wages which already seen over $100 mil in PAYE collected in tax by the govt, which more than pays for what was given to retain the movie production here. Yes we have heard about Warner being greedy, spending $460 mil without seeing a cent in return! Without the bond or tolkien movies, its likely Warner would already have failed as its tough out there. The reality is businesses provide jobs and income, and through them taxes, to pay for our bludgers. Business success sees growth, while business failure sees job losses. Why does the left want to see business failures?

21/11/2012 1:43:25 p.m.

samantha wrote:

the country is collapsing because we have a PM that is just a socialiser in high places,smiling and shaking hands to promote the nice guy image like he did with voters and everyone fell for it . 1000 a week leave NZ and 170,000 have gone so far,174,000 unemployed and still no policy to address it. how do you create employment,you offer big companies to set up in NZ and pay no tax for 5 years ,the gov't would get tax from the employees and the wages would support the local economies,this is about the only way to encourage employment. tax incentives are the only way to get overseas companies to set up shop here. we are relying on dairy which pays minimum wages yet owners are netting massive incomes,fairness means share the gains and bigger wages can support the community whereas minimum wage means survival at best and nothing to spend into the community businesses. we must encourage big wages and little company tax . more wages and more businesses will expand and create more jobs. Key is a flop and statistics say a major flop.

21/11/2012 8:39:15 a.m.

cmg wrote:

I couldn't agree more with Alison Maine, below. We need someone like her in charge of the country

21/11/2012 8:32:12 a.m.

cmg wrote:

Dan who wrote below said it all for me; he's got a family to support, a big mortgage to pay and he's worried. I feel for the average NZers in his situation and something needs to be done to help those who are working hard but stil really struggling. A lot of peoples wages, for good, honest hard days work, are not even equal to a weeks rent alone. Especially in Auckland.

20/11/2012 12:04:16 p.m.

Isaac wrote:

I can see one flaw that seems to be repeated over and over, and it is that things can get beter it can't.
The fractional reserve banking system has doomed us all to the hardships assosiated with its unpreventable collapse.
The most basic fudamental rule of our monatary system is that all money is created out of Debt. If all debt was paid off their would be no money. The Money loaned to you by the Bank never existed in the first place, they ceated it, out of nothing. In essence we are not only slaves but worse..we are slaves that must work to feed and house ourselves, for what, repay money that never existed in the first place. Let it collapse, its fake, things can only get better as a result.

19/11/2012 2:25:34 p.m.

Alison Maine wrote:

Unemployment and Govt policies: The NZ unemployment figures are just the tip of the iceberg. I and friends have been unemployed for over a year but because we have partners still working we don't show on WINZ stats. We are professional people. My whole street has high unemployment but with partners still working. NZ is being stuffed by this Govt's lack of vision policies. Key is a bean counter accountant not a visionary. The introduced youth rate is a disaster -employers like supermarkets, will dismiss their cheap Asian labour for cheaper high school students 15 yrs plus. NZ is on its way to 3rd world status -due to faulty Govt policies and implementations. Houses prices are over the top and wealthy migrants snap them up -average kiwi been sold down the tube - luckily for Australia our best and hardworking go to aid their tax systemn but with no fringe benefits so NZers further exploited by both NZ and Aussie Govts. What does Key care- he has $44million and a house in USA, which is maybe why he buddies up with that nation. He only wants to show on his CV that he tick boxed the national debt -down a bit at the expense of the poor, needy, production and manufacturing sector. The way the world is no nation will get their debt totally under control and free trade has added to the global melting pot. Maybe it is all contrived to be this way as the one world system is getting well set up anyway. The New World Order is nearer than the average kiwi realises. Aussie banks screw kiwi savers but Kiwi Bank has not figured out they need to offer the same fringe benefits as those banks to attract investors -and they would -what kiwi wants to put profits into the Aussie banks for use in Australia!te Labour Govt is so obsessed with personalities -get over it and start working together for NZers and NZ.

18/11/2012 3:28:10 p.m.

James wrote:

They are both porkie produces. Your's is a great question for intelligent journos to question Key & English. The answers which will be straight faced spins and more lies will be so interesting and more importantly, very 'educating'!

18/11/2012 12:49:16 a.m.

Challeneger wrote:

Hi Duncan, Last week on The Nation Bill English informed us to a question raised by you that this Govt has created 26,000 jobs. Today John Key said that this Govt has created 60,000 jobs. I am bit confused did this Govt create 34,000 jobs in one week. Can you please review the tapes and tell me if I am correct If so seek some explanation from the Minister and his prime minister.

16/11/2012 5:02:24 p.m.

peter wrote:

I would like to vote in the oppinion poll when do one thank you Duncan

16/11/2012 7:34:55 a.m.

Just Me wrote:

The National government are behaving like a bunch of ostriches.If they can ignore something long enough they hope it e.g the bankrupting of the NZ economy; will go away never to be seen ever again especially whilst they are government.

Duncan Garner

Political Commentator

Duncan Garner is the host of TV3’s new current affairs show Third Degree and hosts RadioLIVE’s drive show from Auckland. He was the 3 News political editor from 2007 to 2012. Here he offers his views and commentary on the developments of New Zealand's politics.