PM promises to combat suicide

30 Aug 2011 01:29p.m.

Jak wrote:

To Emma; "Back in my day"??? When was that? I'm in my late 60s, and counsellors have been increasingly cluttering up the planet for almost all of "my day". Nor did we "never talk about it" although we didn't talk about it much. Just the same, suicides happened far more frequently than you seem to think. You seem to be of the opinion that if we don't acknowledge suicide is a problem, and we don't talk about it, it won't happen. Ain't so!

30 Aug 2011 12:49a.m.

Jak wrote:

The reason most suicides are men is because the miniscule amount of so-called 'help' available isn't relevant to them. Counselling? Hah! Counselling is a totally provider-driven industry. It also appears to be a sort of 'sheltered workshop' for the very ineffectual. Counsellors (and I have known quite a few, both professionally and socially) are almost without exception ineffectual talking-heads, a sort of mental placebo, without contacts, funds or any other form of real help. The 'mental health' aspect is just a symptom of the problem, as well as a 'blame the victim' gambit. If Mr. Key is serious about suicide prevention, let him put some real resources into finding out the real causes of suicide, then put some equally real resources into prevention.

29 Aug 2011 02:41p.m.

cherie wrote:

Back in my day we never talked about it and didnt have councilors.
It seems to me the more you bring it up the more it happens

29 Aug 2011 09:36a.m.

alien wrote:

people complain there is no money, in June or July 231,000 people, a record number left the country the vast majority going on holiday, the largest number in quite a long time going overseas on a vacation, there is plenty of money here, just some of you constantly complain about everything and present false facts that you invent. sadly bram you are right, a lot of suicide problems come from people being bullied, usually at school, the lack of support there was for them and then those problems manifesting into their adult years. these aren't problems that just popped up and we have had a high suicide rate for quite a while, but don't tell the labour fools, they pretend all problems just arrived on election day. well done for Key for wanting to look into this problem, for 9 years under the previous government it wasn't looked into.

29 Aug 2011 08:37a.m.

Braam wrote:

Money don't fix stress problems, money management does. Stop buying alcohol and feed your children...

29 Aug 2011 12:37a.m.

Jamie wrote:

"Prime Minister John Key wonders what is going wrong"

Well firstly people are depressed as &%$% in this country and most of them dont have mental illness, its something called stress that someone on 100k+ a year wouldnt really have to go through on a daily/weekly basis, Its bloody sad to think that most of the people who are commiting suicide are people my age, my generation, it doesnt matter if we've gone through 7th form and have university entrance, cause by then our parents are broke so the only way is with a student loan or work at KFC, im one of the lucky ones getting an apprentaship, most kids today drop out of school and get onto the dol asap, especially in Northland (which has one of the highest teen suicide rates in NZ) or have kids young to get the DPB, its sad, cause its survival in a time where there are NO JOBS for youth and young adults and NO FUTURE for these people, we're not the "ME" Generation like what some may say, were turning into the Lost generation. MR Key, WAKE UP AND DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT IF YOU REALLY THINK YOU SHOULD BE OUR LEADER DOUCHE!!!!

29 Aug 2011 12:08a.m.

katrina wrote:

@Clarke - actually these ones occured during Labour Government. One of them was actually in the Mental Health System and was unsavable. Not everyone can be helped.

28 Aug 2011 10:33p.m.

Braam wrote:

Clarke "@Braam how does a moron like you.." It's more likely that a abuser like yourself will drive people to suicide Clarke. You have an inherent anger problem mate, you should really get that checked out. Viva National

28 Aug 2011 10:18p.m.

Arthur wrote:

Look, I realise that this is an emotive issue, but we all need to chill. People commit suicide for their own reasons, and these reasons are not necessarily John Key's personal responsibility. But he does have a responsibility to look into the issue from a societal perspective. And he should do it *now,* not after the election, not when he blooming well feels like it- helping young people find hope and meaning in their lives is too important to be left as an election carrot-or-stick promise.

28 Aug 2011 07:00p.m.

Clarke wrote:

@Braam how does a moron like you come up with the fact that last years suicide statistics were labours fault? lol

Are you braindead?.

Labour arent in power and havent been for awhile now.. but this is still their fault?.

Actually most young people comitt suicide out of an immediate sense of hopelessness a sense of dispair, not a sense of dispair or hopelessness that they felt when labour was last in power.

They need specialists to turn too, National could have put those specialists in place 3 years ago but didnt, they need employment opportunities.. National has created none.
They need people to turn too, and National has been slashing mental health spending.

But you sit there... in all you idiocy blaming labour still? thats all you alien, mouthguard and others have been doing for years and years now.
you dont have anything intelligent to say on the topic at all really do you.