Peters: Let's all say we're Maori
Tue, 04 Sep 2012 12:14p.m.
By 3 News online staff / NZN
New Zealand First is suggesting all New Zealanders pretend to be Maori to get special privileges under the law.
The party wants the Government to define who is and isn't Maori before offering deals to iwi over water rights, after delaying the asset sales programme. Winston Peters says anybody could be Maori under the law.
"[Prime Minister] John Key could write to those New Zealanders he considers ineligible to let them know they've missed out," says Mr Peters.
Ministers are heading into five weeks of discussions with iwi over water rights and asset sales after announcing on Monday the Mighty River Power share float would be delayed until March next year.
The Government hasn't agreed to any of the conditions set out in a Waitangi Tribunal report but says it wants "clarity and certainty" before the power company is partially privatised.
The Maori Council, which sought the tribunal's ruling, has welcomed the delay but says it is keeping its legal action option open.
It would have sought a High Court injunction if the government had decided to go ahead with its original sale deadline of November.
The Government is confident it will win a court case and that having five weeks of discussion will strengthen its hand.
Mr Key says the Government has had legal advice and "shares plus" won't work, but he's prepared to talk about it to find out whether iwi can "come up with anything new".
"The Government's current view is that this idea should not be progressed," he said. "But we need clarity and certainty, and taking some time to talk about it is the prudent thing to do."
Maori Party co-leader Pita Sharples says the government has shown it respects the need for iwi to be consulted.
"We're very pleased because we advocated for that."
Mana Party leader Hone Harawira says it's "about bloody time" Prime Minister John Key realised how serious the opposition is to the sales.
"It’s a far cry from the disparaging comments he made about the claim, the Council and the Tribunal a couple of months back," says Mr Harawira.
"Government’s decision to delay the sale of state assets until at least March 2013 is a back-down of massive proportions and a victory for all New Zealanders, many of whom have been working furiously to get together the numbers needed to force a referendum to stop asset sales."
Mr Harawira says the delay "shows that the Treaty is the only constitutional document we can rely on to safeguard our assets and our future".
"This is not the time for hasty decisions or fast deals. Now is the time for patience and for participation, and I urge all iwi leaders to lead the engagement of their people in what is likely to be the biggest decision they will ever make."This morning former ACT Party leader Rodney Hide rubbished the Waitangi Tribunal's view.
"I read most carefully the tribunal report and I found it to be utter bollocks," he told Firstline this morning.
"There’s no argument there of ownership, it’s just that the tribunal asserts it. They say that Maori own water because they sang songs about a river, they identified spirits… that’s nonsense.
"The treaty is silent on water. What the treaty says, and the tribunal observes this, is that Maori property rights will be upheld. They then create the fiction that Maori own water. Clearly they don’t," says Mr Hide.
"What the tribunal’s done is in a fairyland sort of happy-clappy kind of way, has tried to construct rights out into the year 2012. Clearly it’s bollocks."
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7/09/2012 4:18:42 p.m.
How on Gods green earth does someone have entitlement to anothers intellectual property, i.e. turbines, airwaves the list goes on..
6/09/2012 9:08:59 p.m.
it was also the destruction of the moa that directly caused the extinction of the giant haast eagle as the moa was their primary sourse of food, and the burning down of the forest destroyed their habitat.
6/09/2012 7:46:56 p.m.
Wiseacre - What 'model of resource management' are you talking about? The pre-European Maori burned down entire forests to drive out moa and other food sources so they could be easily caught, destroying the entire species in the process. They were not some kind of eco-friendly race of people. They did what they had to to easily take resources and that was it, there was no 'conservation' or anything like it. That is a myth created by greedy lawyers and greedy tribal leaders eager to rip off the taxpayer for as much as they can get away with. The whole Treaty gravy train is a farce, and so many people are ignorant enough to believe the lot of it.
6/09/2012 12:58:15 p.m.
sorry gary i should of said that the treaty wasnt ignored but is now irrelivant due to a lack of actual maori. wiseacre by assets do you mean turbine generated power? and how can you call them maori assets when they existed for millions of years before maori were even here. i am a descendant of maori and i am doing no worse than any other nzer. i dont feel disadvantaged at all, its just an excuse, and those who do have been taught to. and if we remember our ancesrors and dont make the same mistakes again and all benefit equally from the fruits then that would be far more productive
6/09/2012 12:36:33 p.m.
yes our tax payers dollars do go to the crown, the difference is we get services such as education, health etc in return, im not compensating the crown for crimes i didnt commit 150 years ago. and the treaty isnt ignored thats why moari are also equally entitled to the same services. and for the record i dont support jk or the sale of soa but im not in support of a ridculous maori claim to "delay" them wich is obviously just an excuse for another taxpayer funded payday. i will sign the petition for a referndum wich is the correct way to go about it.
6/09/2012 10:38:44 a.m.
@ED - Maori of the past were dispossessed of their assets. Successive generations of Maori have suffered from that impoverishment, and Maori continue to be marginalised.
Colonialists enriched themselves to the detriment of Maori.
It is easy to say taxpayers of today should not have to pay for historical crimes. But it is unjust that we of today enjoy the fruits of that iniquitous enrichment.
6/09/2012 9:29:20 a.m.
ED Tax money goes to the crown to Royals that are just as distant to the original KING. It goes both ways. You can not uphold everything set out by the crown and ignore the treaty. Agree or not it has to be discussed and given merrit after all JK started all this and now he hides from it.
6/09/2012 8:42:18 a.m.
maoris own model of resource managment lol, said the moa? as far as treaty claims being justified well a group of people distantly related to the maori people, receiving money from taxpayers of today,who never committed any crime against them, justified? for the record i never said i agreed with the bail out.
5/09/2012 10:00:30 p.m.
@ED - " comparing a finance company bail out to treaty claims is ridiculous, theres no argument there, they are completely different."
That's right. The majority of Treaty claims are justified. Finance company bailouts were never justified. Wealthy investors gambled, lost, and then had their losses paid out by their mates in Government. That's how the rich, and the powerful, and the corporates concentrate their wealth - they privatise the profits and socialise the losses.
The wealthy elite have long played the game of *socialism for the rich and capitalism for the poor*. Now capitalism is coming around and biting them in the ass.
Europeans forced Maori to abandon their own model of resource management and adopt an exploitation based capitalist model. Now the neo-liberal corporate power-mongers are all upset because they are being played at their own game.
The tragedy is that the capitalist exploitation model based upon never ending economic growth is unsustainable in a finite world.
Perhaps it's time to learn something from Maori about how resources are understood, valued and managed.
5/09/2012 8:59:10 p.m.
It's hilarious how J.Key has tried to blind NZers to his own dealings and then have the gall to put it at Maori feet. J.Key knows theres money to be generated using these assets just like the Maori do. Although, somehow it's wrong when Maori do it and right for Pakeha. J.Key would rather sell NZ down the tubes to foreign investors rather than find a workable relationship with Maori. Why is J.Key so adamant about ignoring Maori. It only makes sense that with the millions Maori have already claimed, that to reinvest NZ assets inhouse would not only keep ownership firmly within Kiwi hands. But this makes too much sense and so the fight will carry on. I can only hope that J.Key will fall flat on his face before he beggars the country completely
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