Police had live video feed of Dotcom raid
Fri, 10 Aug 2012 7:00p.m.
By 3 News staff
Police have revealed for the first time that during the Kim Dotcom raid there was a video feeding back to a police station for senior police and FBI to see.
It was during an ongoing hearing into what will happen to evidence seized from Dotcom after search warrants used were deemed invalid.
This evening lawyer Guyon Foley, acting for the defendants, questioned detective inspector Grant Wormald, of the Organised and Financial Crime Agency, about how senior New Zealand police officers knew what was going on during the raid.
It was understood that on the day of the raid the FBI representatives in New Zealand, and senior New Zealand police officers knew what was going on, but it was unknown how they got that information.
“What information was coming back to your headquarters group in relation to what was happening as to progress of the raid?” Mr Foley asked.
“We received phone calls from the scene in respect to the fact that at least three of the defendants apart from Mr Dotcom have been located,” Mr Wormald said.
“Radio contact with officers on the ground?”
“We didn’t have radio contact directly with STG because they were working on an encrypted radio network which we didn’t have access to,” Wormald said. “There were messages coming back from the scene with respect to the arrests being made.
“Any video feed from anywhere?”
“We had a video feeding back to the police station,” Wormald said.
He would not say where it was feeding from.
Dotcom’s mansion in Coatesville was raided by police on January 20.
The US Government is seeking to extradite Dotcom and three others on charges of racketeering, copyright infringement and money laundering.
The hearing will continue next week.
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6/09/2012 3:43:50 a.m.
Anyone awestruck by the Hollywood lobby should know that they are just lambs compared to the nuclear fission group. This lobby is so money mad that it rolls the dice risking all life. Listen to David's argument against this at publicaddress.net/2424
4/09/2012 10:16:01 a.m.
Mike. No one is suggesting non-cooperation in regards of any reasonable request. You are trying to write the extradition procedure. To blindly follow without considering implications is to undo everything Kiwis stand for. Mr Lange cemented a logical stance on nuclear fission. He was an intelligent guy. Kim appears to be intelligent as well. Consider the outcome if we don't have intelligent people left here: At Unit 4 more than 1500 rods remain suspended in air. Called "a bathtub on the roof" by CNN anchor Jon King, the damaged pool teeters atop a building decimated by seismic shocks and at least one hydrogen explosion. The question is not if, but when it will come crashing down. Meanwhile, we are all hostage. "Devil's Tango" provides ample evidence that the Fukushima disaster was caused primarily by the earthquake of March 11, 2011. The tsunami that followed made things worse. But the atomic reactors there and around the world remain far more vulnerable to seismic shocks than their builders want us to know. This means Indian Point, New York; Diablo Canyon and San Onofre, California; in Virginia, Ohio, South Carolina and virtually everywhere else these reactors sit. All these reactors---including virtually every one in Japan---could be destroyed by shock waves like those that took down Fukushima. Cecile Pineda makes it passionately clear that our species has no more pressing priority than to get those fuel rods out of the Fukushima 4 pool and onto the ground before another earthquake does it for us
16/08/2012 4:31:49 p.m.
NZ is proving that if you have enough money that any criminal can escape justice by fleeing to NZ.Our extradition law is being re-written so now instead of NZ cooperating with extradition, we now have basically a legal case in NZ first to help wellfunded crims avoid justice.Comments that might be detrimental to the crims get moderated out when they try to explain legal breaches (like distribution of copyrighted material uinder NZ law) by crims and defend NZ Police and NZ law. One can only wonder if somebody is buying NZ media response?
16/08/2012 8:57:08 a.m.
Just to correct my previous comments. The provisional warrants to arrest were not invalidated by the warrants to seize and search. They were made invalid by the execution of the unlawful warrants to enter on the property and into the home. Neither Kim nor Mona nor Wayne Tempero would have had opportunity to give three warnings against trespass but I am convinced that the power to arrest was reverse, and I believe that the majority of Court of Appeal judges would find the same if it ever gets that far.
15/08/2012 2:16:47 p.m.
Jim Seaview wrote:
QUOTE from Mike: "Basically Jim would argue that the police just doing their job is excessive, and in a perfect world if we had no crims, we wouldn't need police ..."Mike you surmise too much. I have the greatest respect for the hardwork our frontline police do 24 hours per day every day of the year.I do not offer the same respect to the top level Police hiearchy that put so much planning and resources into arresting Dotcom who had not broken any laws of NZ, but they make these resources available immediately on request of the FBI. There were helicopters, Armed Offenders Squad, Furniture trucks to remove assets and they froze all his bank accounts. I wish they had deployed the same resources to try and determine who killed the Kahui twin babies.I know I have said this before - but the NZ Police (The top dogs) as far as I am aware have still have not returned anything to Dotcom and this is one aspect that I find disgraceful.Sometimes one gets the perception that there is a law for some but not everyone.
15/08/2012 6:48:07 a.m.
Look at the definition of "serious offence" in section 243 of the Crimes Act. How (applicable to a cloud server) does copyright infringing under section 131 of the Copyright Act become that serious offence under NZ Law?. The warrants said "breaching copy right" and "money laundering". So if you just take the time and trouble to do that you can conclude sham. Mike says this section applies: "Every person commits an offence against this section who, other than pursuant to a copyright licence, distributes an object that is, and that the person knows is, an infringing copy of a copyright work". Is he right? That is worth thinking about carefully because if that section is questionable in application to a cloud server operation the seizures and the arrests as well are a sham aren't they? But to balance that, from a Herald story yesterday, I do not see that replacing a laptop could mean anything towards replacing the only copies of family photographs that might be stored in it. That object doesn't have a price tag. That data doesn't doesn't have a price tag. Or is it those "objects" don't have a price tag? What became of the hard drive containing the photos?
15/08/2012 1:59:03 a.m.
The Dr wrote:
Lets send some nz cops to the fbi to ask them to act for us thay would be on the next flight back and it would be the joke of the year and that is whot we should have done to the fbi this is new zealand not the usa wake up cops
14/08/2012 10:18:57 a.m.
Gosh Mike. I thought I might have got you down from 7 paragraphs to 6, but you had to add "get real" in there again and increase it to 8!
14/08/2012 8:26:46 a.m.
NZ currently has police in the UK, so based on that ASH probably thinks the UK govt are in our pockets too!Get real!The reality is this/that government aren't in each others pockets. Governments around the world do cooperate, as this helps international relations and world trade which is good for all parties.Police around the world also cooperate. Sometimes through Interpol, sometimes directly. Eg the NZ police in the UK currently are their to liason for NZrs to add to their security for the games, just as the FBI were here to liason. In the same way the guy who murdered his wife, abandoned his daughter at the aiport, fled to the states, NZ liasoned in the US then too!The only one on about a conspiracy is a defendant who want to make so much media noise that his alledged crimes in the US are forgotten. Take a look at his Mr President video, he is pro-anarchy, anti-government, anti-law, anti-police - even before the raid!Our media is being played by someone with plenty of experience at playing media. Take dotcoms history in the EU which he defrauded millions, or insider trading charges more recently in HongKong. This is not an honest guy, and his fact sheet is highly selective missing almost all the facts.Megaupload wasn't chosen to be an example, more Megaupload by its own actions became an example. Any business that does a bad taste advertising campaign about it flouting the law will put itself at the top of any list to be targeted. Megaupload may not be the biggest internet copyright infringer, but their bad taste advertsiing campaign moved them to the top of the list to be investigated.Money laundering, conspiracy as additional charges? We wont know about them till the case goes to trial in the US. But on history, when the US charges Money Laundering they have a fairly high conviction rate, as they will have tracked the money flow, and we know nothing of megauploads money flow.
14/08/2012 3:15:44 a.m.
"He would not say where it was feeding from". How does he get to do that? He cannot rely on the Fifth Amendment of
the American Constitution in this country. He cannot use the New Zealand Bill of Rights Act, because he has not been charged with anything. He is a New Zealand public servant refusing to give information before the Chief High Court Judge of New Zealand who is reviewing his specific actions on the day in question
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