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Pro-smacking lobby angered by rejection

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Thu, 09 Sep 2010 6:28a.m.

Larry Baldock (NZPA)

Larry Baldock (NZPA)

By Dan Satherley

Lobby groups have blasted the Government for last night rejecting a bill that would have effectively repealed the so-called 'anti-smacking law'.

The bill, drafted by John Boscawen and sponsored by David Garrett – both ACT MPs – was voted down 115-5.

"Parliament has tonight shown utter contempt for the people of New Zealand," The Kiwi Party's Larry Baldock wrote in a statement titled, "Real democracy in NZ steps closer to the Grave".

"We're pretty gutted by the 'spit in the face of voters' - as ACT MP David Garratt (sic) said," wrote Family First's Bob McCoskrie.

Mr Baldock pointed to last year's referendum as evidence "our elected representatives have turned their backs and blocked their ears to the clear voice of the people of New Zealand".

The referendum's wording – 'Should a smack as part of good parental correction, be a criminal offence in New Zealand?' – was criticised at the time for being badly-worded.

Prime Minister John Key said it was "ambiguous" and "ridiculous", and both he and Leader of the Opposition Phil Goff said they were not going to vote.

Child welfare agency Caritas Aotearoa New Zealand noted it was possible to support the law, and vote yes or no.

Groups supporting the law as it stands applauded Parliament's stance.

‘It is time the pro-hitting lobby accepts that their point of view is unacceptable today and will never again be enshrined in New Zealand legislation," wrote Deborah Morris-Travers of Every Child Counts.

"Regular reporting by Police and Child Youth and Family over the ensuing period has found no evidence of harmful impacts from the law.

"In addition, a special inquiry instituted by the Prime Minister in 2009 found that the law was working as intended and there was no ill-effect on parents or children."

The pro-smacking lobby however haven't given up.

"[Last night] Parliament failed its core democratic duty," wrote Mr Baldock. "I suggests the title ‘House of Representatives’ is no longer appropriate."

Ex-Green Party MP Sue Bradford, who backed the original law change, has yet to comment., but current Green co-leader Metiria Turei on Twitter wrote, "David Garrett's child beating bill (went down in flames)".

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12 Sep 2010 03:12p.m.

Craig wrote:

To the pro-belters:
Get lives, you people and stop whingeing.

11 Sep 2010 11:03p.m.

justice wrote:

if you are prattling on about the bible, lets not forget it also says an eye for an eye, hmmmm now wouldnt that be fun!!!

10 Sep 2010 12:45a.m.

Preacher wrote:

Taters, Love God, Love each other. Hows that hard to live by? Unless you mean all the man made rules that religion keeps trying to tack onto the end.

09 Sep 2010 10:21p.m.

Kelly wrote:

@John Davis, how do you come to that judgement, give me something constructive to debate with!

09 Sep 2010 08:56p.m.

John Davis wrote:

@Kelly are you kidding? the act party are basically the far right republican party+richie rich party. They might have some good policy's about some stuff but they are basically after your money and what ever else they can grab, if you voted for them you have pretty much voted for your boss's to look after your interests when its clearly in their best interests to look after themselfs first, they represent middle class nz'ers even less than national and labour.

09 Sep 2010 04:02p.m.

Taters wrote:

I highly doubt that the bible will do much good - a lot of Christians find it difficult to live by it on a regular basis, unless it suits their wants and needs. Consistency is key for disciplining children - have them fix the issues they caused, rather than deprive them of the experience and sit in their rooms.

09 Sep 2010 03:52p.m.

Kelly wrote:

National must think their own SH*T don't stink. I thought Labour wanted everyone to learn to run backwards so they could easily dictate their stupid policies to everyone.

Labour tried to make dictatorial policies to govern this country forever but democracy humbled Labour because of the way they made policy to stay a political persausive power. So DEMOCRACY regected them. Parlimentarians are a bunch of educated people in CLOWN suits and NATIONAL ARE NO BETTER!!!!!!!!?

ACT REspected what DEMOCRACY wanted a smaller parliment, harsher LAWS for career criminals. For parents to be able to give their child a "LITE" SMACK 'not a BASH' when necessary but NATIONAL too think they're a better example of a good parent because they think WE constituents ARE STUPID I GUESS and should have NO RIGHTS. The SMACKING LAW IS RIDICULOUS!!

Soon PARLIMENTARIANS will advise all MPs to walk around with condoms on their HEADS and make rude r**ting noises because they 'think' Kiwis need protecting from prostitutes IS a necessary policy. The govt should REnamed the CONTARIANS mind half Labour mps are FRONT BUMS anyway? LOL

As stupid constituents we all sit in the cheap seats, all PARLIMENTARIANS educated clowns apart from HUMBLE ACT.

A VOTE FOR DEMOCRACY IS A VOTE FOR ACT how else can constitutuents get rid of the Nats and Labour PERSAUSIONS FOREVER?

09 Sep 2010 10:36a.m.

Preacher wrote:

What a shame it is idiots like Boscowen, Baldock etc give Christians such a bad name by abusing the Words position to justify their own 'traditional' desire. When all else has tried and failed with a truly rebellious child, then perhaps physical discipline may be necessary. But the oft misquoted Proverbs 13:4 'Spare the Rod, Spoil the Child' Does not say that at all. "He who spares the Rod of discipline hates his child, but he who loves him disciplines diligently and early". What is the Rod? A stick, paddle or ruler? No, the bible teaches it is the word of correction and wisdom.

09 Sep 2010 08:11a.m.

Colin wrote:

Well done MP's. With the high child abuse and family violence in NZ smacking has no place in Nz. People who use the bible to justify smacking their children should learn what it actually meant when the bible was written. Spare the rod doesn't mean smacking your child but disciplining them when they do wrong.

Being the victim of physical abuse I know what it is like. No good parent needs to smack their children. There are many excellent ways to discipline a child without using violence. Jesus said suffer the little children to come unto me. He who spoke about turning the other cheek Himself would not condone smacking children.

For all Christians and non Christians who support no smacking of childrens I say good on you. Lets keep this law.