Public debate heats up over Atheist bus campaign

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Wed, 24 Feb 2010 10:54a.m.

Atheist campaigner Simon Fisher

Atheist campaigner Simon Fisher

A campaign to put atheist billboards on urban buses has been rejected by New Zealand’s biggest bus company.

Billboards have already appeared on buses around the world but NZ Bus, which runs services across much of the North Island, has refused to carry them.

The campaign “There’s probably no God, now stop worrying and enjoy your life”, was provisionally accepted by NZ Bus, but now they are refusing.

Atheist campaigner Simon Fisher says that despite the setback, the support from the public has been “awesome”.

“They feel really strengthened by the idea that you can be good without God,” He said.

“We want to provide an alternative voice for the more then one third of New Zealanders that are not convinced by the claims of religion.”

The campaign has been met with a range of opinions both for and against the campaign.

After Mr Fisher's appearance on TV3's Sunrise this morning, the show was flooded with feedback.

One text said: “Yes we have free speech and NZ Buses have spoken! Good on them! They have a right to say what their buses are decorated like.”

It’s a sentiment reflected in emails – including this one from Bev: “Presumably the buses are owned by an individual or company, they are not public property although the public use them, the owners have every right to choose what they advertise.”

Other’s expressed outrage at the perceived quash to freedom of speech.

“I'm a pastor of a Christian church and I think it's outright stupidity not to allow the Atheist ads! It's short-sightedness and is a horrible thing for free speech... I'm sad for the state of the nation,” said Chris in a text.

The billboard debate appears to be an issue that won’t be put to rest any time soon.

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26 Feb 2010 05:35a.m.

Joe wrote:

If NZ Bus has the right to decide the religion of the posters on the outside of its buses, does it follow it has the right to decide the religion of the passengers on the inside of its buses? Perhaps NZ Bus could help the situation by publishing a list of approved religions, politics, and cultures it would accept for its adverts... and its passengers? ;)

25 Feb 2010 06:47p.m.

Daniel Neville wrote:

NZ Bus is in clear violation of human rights. They could decorate their buses in any way they wished, but they forfeit that right as soon as they offer a commercial service that allows people to put up ads: They are legally required to treat everyone equally regardless of theology differences. That the slightly insulting "The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God" is permitted to run on buses while "There is probably no god so stop worrying" is deemed to offensive and divisive to be permitted shows starkly how wrong NZ Bus is. I expect the lawsuit taken to Human Rights commission will be interesting.

25 Feb 2010 08:46a.m.

xtina wrote:

Big top should've been sold off to all at Big Day Out. $10 a piece , could've made a mint.

25 Feb 2010 07:56a.m.

Tina wrote:

Talk about emotional blackmail. The bus company can do whatever they like with their buses. Get it - whatever they like. It's theirs. the ahteist zealots have proved that it's not about religion, it's about opposing the bus company. See, they believe in... anarchy?

25 Feb 2010 06:53a.m.

Peter wrote:

So if I understand correctly the Bus company was intimidated by the same fundamentalist religious zealots as attacked the billboard outside St Matthews into denying a peaceful group from advertising their message of hope. I understand the decision. Who wants a bunch of religious zealots tearing up their buses with knifes and scaring away the passengers. However, do Christians really want to be seen as scary religious zealots that want to return to a theocracy where people who disagree are persecuted and discriminated against? If anything this issue has exposed exactly why Atheists need to stand up for their rights.

24 Feb 2010 11:01p.m.

teddy wrote:

get over freedom of speech? what are we n. Korea? can't 1 third of the nation have a voice? please!.Why must we still be bullied by believers in the supernatural. some of us wish to live free of your pious notions. If they want more money for legal fees or continue the fight they only need ask i'm sure, let it not stop here.

24 Feb 2010 10:08p.m.

Yawn wrote:

"This is an awareness campaign!". I think everyone's aware atheists exist. If they had a helpful message, something to offer others, then fair enough. But, 'There probably isn't a God?', honestly, it's the funniest thing I've heard in a long time...lol.

24 Feb 2010 05:04p.m.

Vivette wrote:

The guest says he wants people to know they can be good without God. Everyone already knows that - the Bible already says that, New Agers teach that - and there are plenty of 'good' NZrs who don't acknowledge God. He's walking on shaky ground... I wouldn't want to be in his shoes.

24 Feb 2010 04:55p.m.

Kyreena wrote:

To be quite honest, I'm glad the bus company won't allow this farce. As a person who feels no need for religion, I'm embarrased to have to be pigeon-holed into "atheist" if this is how "atheists" are going to act. One of the things we disrespect about organised religion is this flamboyant parading of "their way or the hogh way". Why the hell are you stooping to this low?! the whole idea of NOT being religious is that we disagree with this sort of behaviour. Smacks of petty power-tripping if you ask me.

24 Feb 2010 04:24p.m.

Marc wrote:

I cannot believe that anyone would object. As an atheist I wouldn't care if Destiny Church advertises for suckers on buses.