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Fri, 09 Oct 2009 6:15a.m.

John Key yesterday announced that pseudoephedrine would become a Class B2 prescription-only drug

John Key yesterday announced that pseudoephedrine would become a Class B2 prescription-only drug

The Government is being accused of a heavy-handed approach by banning over the counter sales of cold medicines containing pseudoephedrine.

The Labour Party, the Pharmaceutical Society and New Zealand Self Medication Industry Association (NZSMIA) were disappointed alternatives such as software that immediately passed on details of sales were not introduced instead.

However police and organisations that work with addicts have welcomed the move and other measures boosting border control and funding rehabilitation services.

Prime Minister John Key yesterday announced that pseudoephedrine, a main ingredient in many cold and flu medication, would become a Class B2 prescription-only drug.

People would now have to go to their doctor for a prescription before they could purchase it.

Medsafe has been asked to consider if a total ban on pseudoephedrine, used to make the illegal drug "P", pure methamphetamine, should go ahead.

There are alternative medications containing Phenylephrine which could not be used as a precursor for P estimated to be effective for about 80 percent of people.

NZSMIA executive director Tim Roper said the partial ban was extreme and unjustified.

He said cold medicines were safe and effective and patients should not suffer because of the actions of criminals.

The association supported the use of software that immediately passed on details of sales.

"Government will regret this move when medical professionals are besieged by people wanting prescriptions for an effective cold or flu medicine."

Pharmaceutical Society chief advisor Euan Galloway said requiring a prescription would disadvantage some patients but classifying it as a Class B2 drug meant it could be further restricted; for example, only available to patients with certain health conditions.

"This B2 is pretty draconian," he told Radio New Zealand.

His society said most precursors used in illegal drugs were imported and pharmacists worked hard to ensure only those who needed the medication got it.

The society had pushed for implementation of a programme to monitor all sales of pseudoephedrine medicines, known as Project STOP in Australia where it had resulted in significant reduction in diversion for illegitimate purposes.

"It's a tool to assist you making a decision as to whether a person is genuine or not because you can see on-line, live, where that identification has been used in the past hour, past week, past date and make a decision as to whether that person is shopping for pseudoephedrine for nefarious purposes."

Australia had offered a free year trial of the programme, he said.

The effectiveness of alternatives using Phenylephrine were questionable, he said.

"It's certainly not as good as pseudoephedrine."

Labour MP Clayton Cosgrove said his party was supportive of the package but he was concerned the law-abiding public was being punished for the actions of a few.

He said if alternatives, such as Project Stop, were considered and ruled out the public should be told.

"You've got to be careful when you pass legislation that you don't end up whacking a huge cost onto the law abiding person."

Police and rehabilitation organisations were supportive of the package which included stronger border controls and more help for addicts.

Police assistant commissioner Viv Rickard welcomed the ban and other measures.

"Police support the control of pseudoephedrine as it would allow us to concentrate resources and work with Customs on preventing the importation of precursors from overseas."

A customs anti-drug taskforce will be created with 40 customs officers to be redeployed, the police will focus on gangs and those who make P and will have new powers to search for evidence.

An extra $22 million funding would be tagged for additional rehabilitation beds, frontline workers, improved helpline and greater power for compulsory treatment was welcomed by Odyssey House in Auckland, which cares for addicts.

Odyssey chief executive Christine Kalin said drugs such as P were highly addictive but residential treatment was highly effective.

"For every person addicted to P there is a mother, a father or a son or daughter who knows first-hand the devastation this drug causes," she said.

The Salvation Army, National Committee for Addiction Treatment and Stellar Trust also welcomed the announcements.

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10 Oct 2009 06:54p.m.

Homer wrote:

Stoned Monkey - you are a complete idiot! Cannabis contains absolutely no nicotine. it amazes me how people comment on something they know absolutely nothing about.

10 Oct 2009 05:01p.m.

Deane wrote:

John Key is showing his lack of experience here. You cannot simply just ban something and think it will just go away.

What is needed is that our friends across the tasman need a good shake up from customs, truckies and police.

Thats where a lot of it comes from. Very little of it is produced in godzone.

We need better policing, stronger customs and a better education system teaching people the effects of drugs.

We also need a wide spread advertising program about P.

The previous government passed law that allowed the confiscation of assets procured though drug dealing.

Drug dealers are now so cocky with what they do, they sell products right under our noses. But they are also very stupid.

With a co ordinated effort by both New Zealand and Australia, we can stamp out the problem.

10 Oct 2009 12:33a.m.

Stoned Monkey wrote:

Police have targeted marijuana plots for years because of its effects on people. If you consider that one joint is equivalent to 120 cigeretes in nicotine content, which adds to your stoned effect. You could imagine how lethargic you get after ten years Glenn. There's enough scientific evidence of memory loss, brain cells not rejuvenating etc, to sink a ship. P more or less murders all drugs!

09 Oct 2009 04:48p.m.

Roxanne wrote:

Just to get a perspective? You want it to be easier to get something for your cold? Meanwhile people are being assaulted and dying and a huge effect on social services and peoples lives because of an illegal substance made from the same product. No brainer I would have thought. And i would assume there are more cannabis hauls because it is a more common illegal activity and who says cannabis is harmless? Oh Glenn does. He has not seen the lack lustre teenagers without the will to work or is he one?

09 Oct 2009 03:05p.m.

Alex wrote:

"Great move by John Key labour is too much of a pansy to make such a move" If Labour had made this move you'd be calling it "nanny state." There's no need to ban over the counter sales of medicines with pseudoephedrine in them - even John Key admits most pseudoephedrine used to make P doesn't actually come from over these medicines. What National's doing is punishing all of New Zealand for a problem that is created by only a handful of drug dealers.

09 Oct 2009 02:43p.m.

Rob wrote:

Cry less I haven't even used this drug in my whole life! If you want P to be gone you need to deal with the prices going higher..

09 Oct 2009 11:35a.m.

Vic wrote:

I get that theres alot of druggies out there by why is the government punishing honest law abiding citizens. It's hard enough to make ends meet as it is - It's not fair!!

09 Oct 2009 11:34a.m.

Rob wrote:

Great move by John Key labour is too much of a pansy to make such a move, this P industry needs to be dealt with, hate seeing P drug atticts abusing their wives children etc. I have a friend who's been beaten by her husband because of P. When he isn't using P he's a very nice person, P needs to be destroyed!

09 Oct 2009 11:20a.m.

Donna M wrote:

I don't agree. Panadol and Coldrex (very similar products) does not dry the sinus, just relieves the aches and pains.
Common head colds are more about the sinus, you feel okay but you cannot stand or sit up without your nose running like a tap. Coldral Cold gives you 4 hours of relief, which allows you to function normally.

I still think a website that all chemists have access to would have done a better job, ID when you purchase the legal limit of one packet. Your name remains on the database for 6 months. If you feel you need more, then you see the doctor for a prescription, your name added to database again.
This will stop the bulk buyers, keep an eye on who are buying, and keep the pressure of the doctors.
I can see doctors overwelmed with to many patients that they will just start writing out prescriptions that you pick up without seeing the doctor. And who is going to tell if you go to more than one doctor, lower income families get subsidised doctors fees, they could be financed to go to more than one doctor for as many prescriptions they can get their hands on, and then start using their childresn colds to gain even more.Without a database how would you know how many someone was cunning enough to get.

09 Oct 2009 11:13a.m.

Glenn wrote:

Here is an interesting point for everyone to ponder. How many times in the news do we see 'P' manufacturing busts compared with big cannibis plantation hauls? Which is the more dangerous?, it's 'P'. Why are the police not putting more focus on cracking down on these P manufacturers rather than their continued focus on a plant that is known to be medicinal, P isn't medicinal, it's shocking what it does to people. I think the police have their priorities wrong. And if you think that banning over the counter sales of cold tablets will have an effect on the problem, think again, the big manufacturers of this drug don't buy their pseudo at the local pharmacy. What a waste of time, dumb politicians.