RWC statue at centre of copyright dispute

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Thu, 28 Jul 2011 6:04p.m.

The sculpture captures the moment Michael Jones scored the first try of the RWC

The sculpture captures the moment Michael Jones scored the first try of the RWC

By Tony Reid

A statue of All Black great Michael Jones has run into trouble, with the artists making it involved in a heated copyright dispute.

The statue captures the moment just before Jones scored the first try in the Rugby World Cup.

Sculptor Richard Wells says eh has been cheated out of money and the co-authorship he deserves for the statue – a one-and-a-half time life size statue of Michael Jones.

“I’ve changed it form something that looked like a robot to something which is actually flying through the air,” he says.

The idea to immortalise Jones in bronze came from Natalie Stamilla, daughter of photographer Geoff Dale who took the original image.

She says she hired Mr Wells to do the grunt work and that his artistic input was minimal.

“Artistically, very, very little,” she says. “It was me and my dad… that was it really.”

The dispute hinges around two images and two very different accounts of how the statue was transformed into what it is.

“It’s a testament to my ability as a sculptor, as an artist, I’ve been sculpting all my life and I’ve never done a bronze but that’s the next step,” says Ms Stamilla.

But Mr Wells disagrees.

“There was no way they could work it out,” he says. “If you don’t have a history and a body of work that leads to something like this, there’s no credibility to it.”

The Jones statue will reside at Eden Park, just up the road from a tribute to Dave Gallagher.

Mr Wells has been dropped from the project altogether, but is not giving up.

“I want recognition of my artistic input as they’ve always promised,” he says.

“It’s somebody doing a spellcheck – that’s how much he did,” says Ms Stamilla.

So what was an iconic moment has now been spoiled by two artists who refuse to agree.

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29 Jul 2011 02:20p.m.

Mel wrote:

Andrew, your comments are based on what exactly? Ms Stamilla had already cast a bronze on a small scale for which she then was able to obtian finding. This small scale model was independently reviewed by experts in the art industry who commented on the high quality of the work. Mr Wells, after being asked to help cast this work, as per his website which clearly states what he does (should every artist now be worried that Mr Wells will STEAL their work....propably!) however Mr Wells couldn't agree a price or a timeframe and hence the project was taken to an expert to complete. Mr Wells showed how incompetent he was a number of times. If he has a case then take it to court as with any other dispute but don't try to bully a young artist. Kat Wells has cast other artists work......nothing that is an original of something he has done. If he has done all these other pieces why has he not tried to bully the other artists into handing over copywrite.....he is a joke and the industry knows it, it is a pity this young artist even met him.

29 Jul 2011 02:19p.m.

Mel wrote:

Andrew, your comments are based on what exactly? Ms Stamilla had already cast a bronze on a small scale for which she then was able to obtian finding. This small scale model was independently reviewed by experts in the art industry who commented on the high quality of the work. Mr Wells, after being asked to help cast this work, as per his website which clearly states what he does (should every artist now be worried that Mr Wells will STEAL their work....propably!) however Mr Wells couldn't agree a price or a timeframe and hence the project was taken to an expert to complete. Mr Wells showed how incompetent he was a number of times. If he has a case then take it to court as with any other dispute but don't try to bully a young artist. Kat Wells has cast other artists work......nothing that is an original of something he has done. If he has done all these other pieces why has he not tried to bully the other artists into handing over copywrite.....he is a joke and the industry knows it, it is a pity this young artist even met him.

29 Jul 2011 09:28a.m.

M wrote:

Let's put things into a bit of context here for those that are a bit misguided - the artist makes the work (in this case, the sculpture was made on an armature in foam for the main form, then a layer of clay was put over this and sculpted for the finer details. This was all completed by Ms STAMILLA). The artist then takes the work to a bronze founder (in this case WELLS - although I use his name in connection to the word 'founder' VERY loosely as it is well known that he is not hands on and relies on workers to actually do the work.....). Through a process, the founder turns the artwork into bronze for the artist. In this case WELLS never even got close to the bronze making part and only made the intial mold of the piece - a number of reasons led the artist to take HER artwork away from him and to another foundry for completion. The picture he is flashing around is that of the piece during its creation - that is the underlaying foam form Ms STAMILLA would later layer with clay on her way to the finished piece. I'm sure she has a heap of photos to document the process of its creation and I'd be pretty certain in saying the WELLS would not be in any of them......why? BECAUSE HE HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE CREATION OF THIS PIECE!!

29 Jul 2011 09:19a.m.

B wrote:

The hottest summer in Auckland was spent by Natalie & her Dad in Natalie's garage 6 days a week for 8 weeks forming the clay work that was seen on the news last night. Richard Wells did not do any mixing, placing or shaping of clay on that art work. I know, I was there looking after the children all day, every day. Wells was employed to do the casting of the bronze only & is now trying to hijack Natalie's work. His website describes what he was employed for - technical advice. Natalie's artistry & sculpting is magnificent. Artists beware!

29 Jul 2011 03:17a.m.

M wrote:

Another case of WELLS trying to take credit for work he never did - just like with the Pharlap Project......VERY minimal input from him and all of a sudden he is the artistic genius behind it all. He may be able to dupe TVNZ and the general public but the artistic community of New Zealand knows the truth behind WELLS and the methods he uses to further his own agenda - he doesn't care who he hurts......he has no artistic talent except for destruction and the sham. It is VERY funny that he talks of credibility in this interview because the word is out there that he is FAR from a credible person to deal with.....also he talks about a person needing a body of work behind them - something he'd know nothing about personally, having only glomed onto others (and their hardwork!) to get recognition. WELLS is a piece of work and all caution should be taken by those chosing to go anywhere near this guy. Beware - Be aware!!

29 Jul 2011 12:12a.m.

kat wrote:

Sorry but I googled Ms Stamilla and got zilch - just the reports on this statue, but Google Mr Wells and I get numerous hits of his art works - to me that says it all. WHY would he risk his reputation and lie? IF Ms Stamilla could do it in the first place why did she go to Mr Wells for help?? sounds a bit suspect to me. IF she can do this calibre of work then where are the examples?

28 Jul 2011 11:32p.m.

Mary R. wrote:

Thanks for that comment andrew but what tv3 failed to report was that mr wells didn't touch the sculpture once ~ it was all done by mrs stamilla. All he did was offer advice 2 or 3 times. I know, i saw it being made.

28 Jul 2011 09:47p.m.

Andrew G wrote:

Sorry to say but i think that what he dun was far from grunt work! 90% of the population can do what she did and 10 points for effert but what Mr Wells has dun is turnd an idea into a art work. So they should both have there names on it Ms Stamilla as ideas and Mr Wells as artist! And as for Ms Stamilla if you wont some skills as a bronze sculptor please see Mr Wells as his work is verry skilled.