Rehabilitate P users to lower demand, gang member says

Hi Jan, thanks, hope this information helped.

Thank you for your feedback urban druid, yes drugs is bad influence in our young children's today and tobacco can kill..Just that I never heard of P until it was advertized on news and no I wont use heroin will you? you seemed to know more about drugs and gangs related and are you involved in the scheem, I no need to go any futher on the subject because sicken my stomach my interest in the matter is are the youngster's health and safety where drugs involve..If Mariana become legalized would you celebrate the event? Thanks for viewing the subject with me..

Hi Jan, it may help you to get some perspective on drug related mortality rates by looking at the graph on the back of a typical tobacco packet produced for the Australian market...
In Australia every year (and presumably NZ), smoking tobacco causes more deaths than murder, illegal drugs, motor vehicle accidents and alcohol consumption combined...
Here are the figures for you: Tobacco-19,019, Alcohol-2,831, motor vehicle accidents-1,731, illegal drugs-863,and murders-203.
Probably fatty foods, poor diet and lack of exercise kills more people than the aforementioned statistics, but we don't have any fatty food police set up to save people from bad lifestyle choices...
With all illegal drugs causing the deaths of just 863 people in a single year in Australia, and tobacco 19,019 deaths, it could seem to some that we have this "prohibition thing" all the wrong way around? Yes? No?
Between 50 and 60% of the Kiwi population once smoked tobacco products, and today that figure is down to around 20%.
An interesting observation to make is that the reduction in large numbers of people's wish to smoke tobacco has not been accompanied by the government threat of court imposed punishments like fines, imprisonment, or the death penalty...
Attitudes have simply changed, people are working it out for themselves, and other tools like education and taxes have been used to achieve this end.
Don't be deceived into thinking that illegal drug related deaths are low because the drugs themselves are prohibited,as this is only how it might appear to some, for in reality NZ has the highest cannabis use and arrest statistics in the western world, and prohibition policy tends to maximise the harm associated with drug commerce and use.
In all seriousness, Jan, if heroin was legally available tomorrow, would you start to use it? If your answer is "No!", then what makes you believe large numbers of others would react any differently?
Good luck in your search for truth and justice.

You sounded like a desperate terrorist Brent and if you weren't here nothing as such corruptions and death rates in my country occurs..get real matey..

the poor old gangs are getting blamed for some thing they started in the first place and feel they are being picked on well get real you start it well you lot can pay for what you lot have done to our young people gangs are the main course of what has happened to this country you are the thugs that make money of crime and still blame the avarge kiwi for why you are like the way you are now get real losers and stand up for your selfs

The country used to die of an old age or an illness and nothing like today's death rates and we never heard of this P killer in the country the streetkids was well known to sniffing clue..get real..

Well, it's kind of a step in the right direction.
Amphetamines have been in the drug scene since the end of the WWII. Back then, one could just buy amphetamines at the chemist following the dumping of the war stockpile on the open market.
Students bought them to remain alert during study or exams. Truck drivers took them to stay awake on the road. Housewives took them to lose weight and perhaps zip through the afternoon's ironing...
While P is a pretty concentrated form of what has basically been around for decades, I agree the problem is the demand side of the equation. Where there is demand, the supply will be met. Presently, with P fetching 800-1000 dollars a gram, there are handsome profits to be made by those who flout the law. This is called the "black market" in P.
I heard Judith Collins comment today that there are as many as 55,000 NZ citizens who enjoy taking P. I heard in the past that the P economy is worth about one billion dollars.
How is it possible to stop people spending one billion on P? And how is it possible to incarcerate all 55,000 P users? Simple, it cannot be done, and perhaps this is why the gang member in the story has suggested that more rehab services be made available?
In Widnes UK, between 1985 and 1990, Dr. John Marks, consultant psychiatrist, ran a clinic that just gave addicts of cocaine and heroin, cocaine and heroin. Check it out.
There was a huge fall in drug aquisitive crime according to a local police study into the programme, and similarly new cases of addiction figures plummeted. Deaths from drug overdose feel to zero, as did the spread of blood-born diseases like, HIVAIDS...
Harm minimisation works. It has been tested in other parts of the world.
The get tough on crime support groups have had impressive success at getting tougher penalties, but has crime gone down? ah, not exactly, more cops seem to be getting shot unfortunately, and some neighbourhoods explode into war zones.
That is the war on drugs for you.

Obviously he and his fellow idiot gang thugs are getting worried about their illegal income that the police/government departments are making in-roads to try and restrict/stop.

Get some hard T.V and other graphic detailed advertising showing the life changing consequences any drugs have on ones human body/mind and also on family/friends and associates. Don't be affriad to put this advertising into schools as well.

What a bunch of plonkers! Who does he think he's kidding? Obviously, like all his gang compatriots, he has the IQ of a boiled egg!!!!!!!!!!!

Where the hell P' come from Ricardo and who is responsible?
P was never in the country until you arrived Ricardo..get real..