SAS' Afghan prisoners tortured - report

Fri, 22 Apr 2011 6:15p.m.

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There are claims SAS troops in Afghanistan have taken prisoners and handed them over to US and Afghan authorities who tortured them.

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27 Apr 2011 04:49p.m.

Mike wrote:

Labour/Greens been looking for dirt on Keys for a decade and so far nothing. This implies he is one of the most honest politicians NZ has ever had, or the Labour/Greens are some of the worst investigators ever - maybe both!

We did have the PM's office (under Labour/Greens) misuse the SIS to monitor the opposition and read their emails. Come now, the SIS had the ability to read the emails as they supplied the security, and the emails turned up in the PM's office before being delagated to her chosen hatchet. The leaks were too wide spread from too many places, so unless Labour/Greens had like 20 staff working for national they wouldn't have obtained the leaks, but an SIS hack/access of the parlimentary email would give them full access. Security within the national party was better than that to allow that many labour /greens into their ranks, plus the national party response was to reduce their communication using the parlimentary email system, and stop almost all of the leaks. SIS handled the security of parlimentary emails, ie inside job.

The events being thrown about relate to 2002, years before the current national govt so all this about it being Keys and nationals fault is garbage.

So far we have had no evidence. We have claims with no evidence. eg in the last Israel spat there were claims they targeted civilians, yet like 70% of those killed were young and male (17-30) - hardly a civilian demographic but very much a militant demographic. We could also hear some balance, like from families of those who have lost loved ones to taliban terror attacks. Terrorists always complain about their treatment and the best thing to do with them is just shoot them. If shot then they couldn't have 500 break out like the other day.

If terrorists want better treatment, they could start by complying with the Geneva convention themselves. Terrorists get better treatment than they give to others.

26 Apr 2011 04:40a.m.

-supressed- wrote:

Well, it was clear Key was a slimeball interested only in making the rich richer and the poor poorer, but I didn't realise he was a war criminal as well. No suprise, I guess, between his 7000 dollar dinners, misuse of military aircraft and writing himself a 1000-dollar-a-week tax cut while the majority of Kiwis got nothing...why would he care how many Afghan villagers get murdered for target-practice by our elite squad of killers? At least the ones handed over for torture might still be alive.

And 'Clarke'? You insult Jerry Mateparae. Mr Key doesn't deserve to even be on the same page, never mind in the same sentence!

25 Apr 2011 02:37a.m.

Frank wrote:

All's fair in love and war! Like we should care? They have beheaded, burned, dragged US soldiers bodies. The wars last too long these days because of trying to play fair I say go in get over with and use as much force as it takes to get the job done.

23 Apr 2011 05:46p.m.

RolanTheRat wrote:

Come on people the SAS did not do it they handed them over to the proper authorities.There job was done so like the SAS move on.

23 Apr 2011 07:37a.m.

Dan C wrote:

@Dodger, dont even joke about bringing them here, thats just the sort of thing our pussyfooting government might do. Besides, are we seriously caring? The media is lucky the SAS even awcknowledged them, they dont have to answer any questions if they dont want to, what they do is their business. They are the ones that do the jobs that need to be done, no matter how dirty they are. A necessary evil.

23 Apr 2011 02:20a.m.

AaronC wrote:

This wont stick to teflon coated John Key

23 Apr 2011 01:01a.m.

Clarke wrote:

If this proves true in anyway I am sure Jerry Mateparae and John Key will resign. They are men of honour afterall.

22 Apr 2011 11:42p.m.

Dan wrote:

@ Dodger: Or perhaps we could send them to authorities who don't torture their prisoners like the British are presumably doing?

22 Apr 2011 10:36p.m.

Dodger wrote:

The other options are kill them, release them to kill our soldiers again, or bring them back to NZ to our nice comfortable jails.