Sharples to confront Key over Waitangi Tribunal
Wed, 11 Jul 2012 5:18a.m.
Prime Minister John Key faces a showdown with Maori Party co-leader Pita Sharples as the row over water rights threatens their support agreement.
Mr Key's comment that the Government doesn't have to consider Waitangi Tribunal recommendations has enraged the Maori Party.
Dr Sharples and co-leader Tariana Turia say it's an insult and they won't tolerate any undermining of the tribunal's mana.
"We view very seriously the comments by the prime minister that `we could choose to ignore what findings they [the tribunal] might have'," they said in a joint statement last night.
"It is of utmost concern in so far as it threatens the very heart of the Treaty of Waitangi relationship."
Dr Sharples says he will "most definitely" meet Mr Key to express his concerns.
The Maori Party signed a support agreement with the Government after last year's election.
Asked by reporters whether it was under threat he replied "not yet".
The escalating row over water rights is the result of the Maori Council lodging an application with the Waitangi Tribunal, seeking a finding that the partial privatisation of four state-owned energy companies should be put on hold until Maori claims to water ownership are resolved.
The tribunal will open its third day of hearings today and Mr Key has been pointing out its recommendations aren't binding on the Government.
He says the Government will "obviously look at" the recommendation that emerges in about four weeks but he hasn't left anyone in doubt over what he thinks about water ownership.
"The Government is very firm - no one owns water, we certainly don't believe Maori own water," he said.
The Maori Party strongly opposes the sale of 49 percent of the shares in Mighty River Power, Genesis Energy, Meridian Energy and coal miner Solid Energy.
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12/07/2012 6:44:05 a.m.
Its not ony the Maori Party but speaking on behalf of all the Taganta Whenua that are annoucing their right of way to their treasures and the Ownership of Water, Rivers and the outstanding of the underground materials from land to sea peds 1000 miles outward to Ocean peds..Bare in mind that we all pay electricity and water rates but who owns them..
11/07/2012 8:44:48 p.m.
Pita Shaples will meet with John Keys and express his concerns, however that is all he will do, nothing else will happen and that will be a FACT.
The Maori Party are too weak to make a stand and if you do not believe this then just watch what they do next .....NOTHING.
11/07/2012 8:29:53 p.m.
when you stop,making out you white people own everything and everyone right to be,what you want them to be: Kevin......True no one own the water,so what make you ses white people think you do and continue to control how people are to use and have assess to waterways......Remember you don't own the rights to water use either
11/07/2012 6:40:18 p.m.
I'm in 2 states of mind here. On one hand I applause the Maori for doing what they can to stop asset sales. (good on everyone that voted for National here. Like ya didn't see this coming!!) but on the other hand, who do the maori think they are to be able to claim the water and air waves. Do they think they are gods or something now? I have rust in my car, can I sue the Maori because it is caused by New Zealand rain water that fills our rivers? I think not aye.
I truly hate John Keys for selling off our beautiful countries assets. It is my second biggest Grrrrr living in New Zealand. But my biggest GGGRRRRR is Maori. When are you guys going to stop claiming everything. If the government still owned half the assets they've given to a minority of now rich Maori in NZ. Then we might not be in the predicament of the now government is, at the moment.
Keys.... You need to go, your not good for NZ and you don't care about the average person in NZ....... Selected Maori..... Start afresh as New Zealanders, not your own little world of god ship you think you live in where you can own mother nature. GET OVER THE PAST!! New Zealand will be a less racist and better place to live in.
11/07/2012 5:05:44 p.m.
There are no water right issues here, as the water is not "used" - only the pressure of the water. Pressure is a natural energy. Nobody can claim rights over natural energy or resources. Try to claim the suns energy and see where you get. Next there will be claims against the energy of the wind.
11/07/2012 3:29:24 p.m.
personality not a factor wrote:
liking national hating labour all not the big picture. This very small country of ours is being broken in two by continuing the waitangi war we are one and yes Maori title should be given to some land etc that was taken wrongly years earlier however it does seem that all this money is not making life better for the majority of low-income Maori. This may be a tribal issue which also needs to be sorted. However the current government was voted in by the people for the people thats the right we have and Labour spent years doling out tax-payer money to buy votes same as Labour has done in Australia but other peoples money eventually runs out and I dont see NZ going onward and upwards if we dont change our thinking as a country and go forward and upwards and no I dont want our country mined to death it wouldnt help us just gain us a bit of money for long-term losses of our natural and special country Go make money off the Mining boom and then bring it back to NZ for the good life. As whether on not you like some-ones personality does not mean they cant do a good job for the country and move us forward
11/07/2012 2:36:08 p.m.
i used to like john key but when he said 80% of us who hate asset sales were just ignorant he lost me then forever . there is something not right about someone who thinks like that and its not good . oh and when Mr key said he did not know what ethics are that just sealed the deal for me .everyday john you announce more job losses . why did we change for were were much better of under labour and that is the truth .
11/07/2012 2:32:33 p.m.
The reality here Mike is that you are an uninformed commentator who is pushing his own redneck ideology onto everyone else.
Better people than you can decide whether this case has merit.
What we dont need here is people like you from media relations companies who are paid to push National Party ideology onto everyone else.
The problem with paid commentators like you is that everything that spews from your mouth is vial and uninformed.
11/07/2012 1:49:52 p.m.
Maori like the Haka. but what is the Haka?The Haka is a war challenge. As is normal in such challenges, the volume, plus the level of insults measures a good war challenge, and the Maori Haka is one of the best war challenges of any race in the world. The Scots lifting their kilts just doesn't compare to the Haka.For Maori to say they are insulted? The bigger the insult, the more everyone would be following Maori tradition. The reality is no insult has been made.In NZ nobody owns the water. Under NZ and British law nobody owns the water rights. This is 2-pronged. by nobody owning it, nobody can exclude others. 2nd area is nobody is held responsible eg when water goes wrong, be it floods, liquifaction, or drought from lack of water - these are refered to as 'Act of God' under NZ law and british law.If Maori insist on demanding another handout for more money with these water rights they also open themselves up collectively to pay every single claim where water has gone wrong historically since the treaty. Every flood, every drought, all electirictiy prices caused by water shortages - all of them!To charge for the water they also must be able to demonstrate some control. I dont see any control of the water to be able to claim the water right in the first place?
11/07/2012 11:21:26 a.m.
val morrison wrote:
I would like to know why there are SO many poor Maori when the 'Waitangi Tribunal' gets millions of dollars....where is this money going to? The Red Indians of AMercia have NEVER tried to or even suggested they own the WATER.....when is all of this going to end?
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