Support for National falls in poll
Sat, 11 Aug 2012 10:23a.m.
Support for the ruling National Party has fallen to its lowest level since the 2011 election, and a potential Greens/Labour coalition is now polling higher.
National was at 44 percent support in a Roy Morgan Poll taken between July 23 and August 5, down 3.5 percent from the last poll taken between July 9 and 22.
Support for Labour rose 2 percent to 32 percent, while backing for the Greens rose 3 percent to 14 percent.
National's result is at its lowest level since the election and the 12 percent lead over Labour is the closest gap between the two main parties since just after National won Government in 2008.
If an election were held now it would be too close to call and depend on the voting results of minor parties and whether they crossed the 5 percent threshold to win list seats.
Support for National's coalition partners was little changed with the Maori Party on 2 percent, ACT on 0.5 percent and United Future on 0.5 percent.
Support for the Conservative Party, which has taken a strong position against law reform to allow gay marriage, has fallen 1.5 percent to 1.5 percent.
New Zealand First had 4 percent support, and the Mana Party 1 percent.
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13/08/2012 9:59:10 p.m.
Labour and the Greens are completely out of touch with everything in the 'real world', in fact they are both just nuts !
13/08/2012 10:24:47 a.m.
It's a joke to see the Labour. P now railing against so many initiatives they have previously so trumpeted in the past. They don't want jobs in energy or farming.Farming is our biggest export earner, oil and gas is the fourth biggest earner - they pay The energy industry creates 7700 jobs and pay high salaries, which are taxed, and 42 % of the profits of these companies comes back to the Govt. in royalties and taxes. Labour says all the money goes overseas - a lie.In govt. Labour sold 100m $ of assets, opened mines, opened casinos and granted exploration consents. They still want to float and sell assets in subsidiaries owned by SOE's.In Govt. they brought trains and carriages from overseas companies but in opposition they are dead against getting the best deal for rail transport in NZ. They closed the Eastown Railway Workshops in Wanganui and yet strongly opposed the closure of a similar workshop in Dunedin.They presided over the biggest growth in house prices, where people made huge paper-based gains in housing prices, and the biggest escalation in private rents, all with no change to the tax regime, just as they had before the 1987 crash. They then spent all the profits on buying elections in 2002 and 2005 and trying and failing to buy the 2008 election. Now, in opposition, Labour wants to implement a capital gains tax, which apparently was a horrible idea when they were in government, but sounds much better when they propose it in opposition.When Nat. came into Govt. in 2008, the Treasury forecast was for government debt to be at about 60 %of GDP at 2026, but now it is forecast to be 0. This after the worst economic times for 80 years. Labour hates it and wants NZ to fail, because they hope this will bring about the best time for Labour in 80 years at a time when their party is struggling to hold together, struggling for relevance, and their lap-dog friends, the NZ Green Party, are eating their lunch and stealing their voters
13/08/2012 9:57:09 a.m.
It's almost amusing to see the Labour. P now railing against so many initiatives they have previously trumpeted in the past. They don't want jobs in energy or farming - also known as the productive side of the economy.Farming is our biggest export earner, oil and gas is the fourth biggest - they pay our way and if we didn't have them we'd be knackered. The energy industry creates 7700 jobs and pay high salaries, which are taxed, and 42 % of the profits of these companies comes back to the Govt. in royalties and taxes. Labour says all the money goes overseas - a lie.In govt. Labour sold 100 $ of assets, opened mines, opened casinos and granted exploration consents. They still want to float and sell assets in subsidiaries owned by SOE'sIn Govt. they brought trains and carriages from overseas companies but in opposition they are dead against getting the best deal for rail transport in NZ. They closed the Eastown Railway Workshops in Wanganui and yet strongly opposed the closure of a similar workshop in Dunedin.They presided over the biggest growth in house prices, and the biggest escalation in private rents, all with no change to the tax regime, just as they had before the 1987 crash. They then spent all the profits on buying elections in 2002 and 2005 and trying and failing to buy the 2008 election. Now, in opposition, Labour wants to implement a cap. gains tax, which apparently was a horrible idea when they were in Govt., but sounds better when they propose it in opposition.When Nat. came into Govt. in 2008, the Treasury forecast was for Govt. debt to be at about 60 % of GDP at 2026, but now it is forecast to be 0. This after the worst economic times for 80 yrs. Labour hates it and wants NZ to fail, because they hope this will bring about the best time for Labour in 80 yrs. at a time when their party is struggling to hold together, struggling for relevance, and their lap-dog friends, the Green P. are eating their lunch and stealing their voters.
12/08/2012 11:55:57 p.m.
Standard and Poor's have confirmed the downgrade in New Zealand's currency rating from the AA+ we enjoyed from 1996 to the AA rating they gave in 2011 (in National's second term). Re financial management by the Labour Government before and the National Government after 2008, here's info from the treasury's website: 'New Zealand ran fiscal surpluses for about 15 years from 1994 to 2008... The government's operating balance went into structural deficit in 2009 and is projected to remain in deficit until around 2015.' That's the legacy of our National and Act Government- our lowest currency rating in 15 years and a slide from surplus to deficit.
12/08/2012 10:30:53 p.m.
What an utterly moronic post Cheryl as usual.
Euthanasia requires that a person wants to die because of unending suffering with no outlook for improvement.
You have no idea what these people go through but dont misrepresent the bill when you are so obviously clueless.
I seem to recall a teapot scandal where John Key was happy to watch a lot of old people die.
How idiotic have the right wing gotten where their posts consist of bending the truth so out of proportion to reality.
Also hate to tell you this deary but under John Key New Zealand has attained its highest recorded rates of poverty.
Internationally we have the worlds worst wealth gap.
John Key has failed to do absolutely anything about unemployment... the rate remains close to what it was at its worst point 2 years ago.
By the way... Nationals spending promises were supposed to cost the country 24 billion... ended up costing the country 26 Billion as National blew its own predictions earlier this year by 2 Billion dollars.
Is this the best we can expect from right wing bloggers??? Lies and exaggeration?.
12/08/2012 8:45:32 p.m.
@Chris/Pretending to be Cheryl
Really? because under National we have more poverty than we have ever had before... the biggest wealth Gap between rich and poor of any developed country... huge external debt that didnt exist before John Key came to power and... as if all of that wasnt bad enough we have an unemployment rate that hasnt changed because Key is so impotent when it come to job creation.
Of the real women in the country that were recently polled... 61 percent stated they didnt trust John Key, they found him arrogant and obnoxious and smarmy.
So you obviously have no clue.
By the way National stated labour would blow the budget by 2 Billion dollars with their promises... yet the funniest thing is that National this year blew their's by 2 Billion dollars.
There was a story recently about blog sites and social media sites where an Australian court ruled that the site was responsible for checking the truth content of the posts... that means there are a lot of right wing posts that arent going to make it through because they lack the truth... as usual.
You have displayed that perfectly.
12/08/2012 4:21:32 p.m.
'Lani' what planet are you on ? the combined spending promises from Labour and the Green's meant we would have ended up like Greece. They wanted to borrow billion's in a time of recession. Labour and the Greens for its election run up continued to make expensive spending promises it could not afford without borrowing hundreds of millions of dollars more from overseas lenders. Just two of the Labour promises alone would amount to almost $2 billion of more debt over a four-year forecast period. The combined Green / Labour spending promises came to $26B. Totally irresponsible. The other week 'Standard and Poors' gave NZ an ongoing 'double AA rating' saying that the economy was 'stable with a good outlook'. Stop being so blinded with your socialist ideologies. Labour - as you well know - are in disarray with infighting, major divisions and the ongoing Cunlfille / Shearer stand off. Shearer is proving to be a weak leader - as you again know - and they are currently promoting two bills, the gay marriage bill and the euthanasia designed to kill off elderly Kiwis - brilliant, when they should be focused on the important issues. Why do you think Labour and esp. Shearer still poll so poorly ? as Kiwis don't trust them - simple.
12/08/2012 11:49:46 a.m.
Lani Mitchell wrote:
S, agree with you that we need a financially responsible government, the kind that won't blow the budget by delivering tax cuts to those on highest incomes, won't insure blatantly failing companies like South Canterbury Finance, won't preside over the kind of lax health and safety and environmental standards that led to the Pike River and Rena disasters and the financial blow-outs associated with them, won't sell off our highest-earning assets so that their rich buddies will have something to gamble shares on, won't shell out hundreds of thousands for privatised and unaccountable charter schools with untrained teachers, and won't gamble with our international reputation (however ill-earned) for green products. Agree with you - we need National and Act GONE (Labour, by the way, left the country in surplus. Its these smarmy clowns from National and Act that have got us into debt, and they can't blame it all on the Chch earthquake).
12/08/2012 10:30:05 a.m.
@ATO - FPP a fairer system? Are you serious? By basing results on amounts of electorates won, it stacked the odds in favour of the large number of rural electorates, which comprised of a minority of voters who usually had a blue ribbon bias. Meanwhile, in the more urbanized electorates, where the majority of the population lay, many of whom preferred labour, their votes were wasted - Despite an outright majority of votes for labour, national could walk in the election because they counted more electorates, not more votes. FPP was a farce, and we're better off without it. And before you bring up the old "MMP - Tail wagging the dog" line, in regards to previous labour led coalitions, just look at nationalls current reliance on Act and United Future, who between them poll around a quarter of what NZF used for their place.
11/08/2012 9:00:25 p.m.
Labour, Greens, Mana sound like good Austrian economics to me!!!
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