Kiwi callers appalled by 018 service

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Mon, 06 Jul 2009 12:00a.m.

Campbell Live compared the 018 service in Palmerston North with the operators in Manila

Campbell Live compared the 018 service in Palmerston North with the operators in Manila

Over the past three weeks, Campbell Live spoke to many 018 callers. Many complained of being misunderstood, waiting too long for a number and doing the work for the operators and then being charged for it.

Campbell Live compared the Kiwi service in Palmerston North with the operators in Manila.

Using the high profile number of the New Zealand Parliament, the Palmerston North operator gives out the number within five seconds. However it wasn't so fast in Manila.

After 92 seconds and a lot of confusion, the operator transfers the call to her support desk.

Yellow, which is responsible for 018, say they are still in the gradual transitional phrase.

"Some people have reported service below the level they were used to," the said in a statement. "While others have been complimentary about how operators have gone the extra mile."

Campbell Live found two out of the eight Manila-handled calls as impressively slick, but the others were frustrating.

That frustration is upsetting for Mosgiel resident Heather Overend, who uses the 018 service frequently. She's almost completely blind and dependent on the telephone to stay connected.

She says that it's only a matter of time before someone's safety will be compromised in an emergency situation.

Yellow says it is teaching Manila operators local knowledge and that it is providing "a tailored training programme, including Maori pronunciation, Kiwi accents and colloquialisms and familiarity with New Zealand businesses and geography".

Ms Overend says a high profile New Zealand business stumped the operator she was recently talking to.

"I rang up for The Warehouse number and they asked me to spell 'The Warehouse'," she says.

They also had problems with the common surname 'Brown'.

A Palmerston call centre operator says that for the cost of one Kiwi operator, Teletech can get three Manila operators.

She says the high turnover in Manila will also mean the service will not improve.

New Zealander Janelle Bromby is appalled that the shift to Manila has been allowed to happen and says she would love to be a 018 operator.

However the prospect of more Kiwi jobs seems unlikely. Yellow CEO Bruce Cotterill says the reality is that 018 volumes and revenues are gradually falling.

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06 Sep 2009 12:32a.m.

chase wrote:

hi! i understand your frustation and i do apologize for all the inconvenience that 018 had cause you. But i know in no time,018 service will be better.... just give ample time to manila agents.... as what they say, patience is a virtue! Manila agents are doing all their best to satisfy the needs of 018 callers, everyday is a learning process! May God bless us all!

04 Sep 2009 12:06a.m.

wiser than you wrote:

i think kiwis should not say anything bad when it comes to the transition of 018 in manila, i believe that filipinos are giving all their best to help them get the number that they are asking for.. its just a matter of time and familiarity with the job..its like if kiwis will be ask for the business here in manila i think they will also commit mistakes since they are not also familiar with the business that we have...i know in time we will be able to serve you better, better than what you can do... its not a matter of language barrier ut its how you compromise and help us in giving the listing that you want.. instead of saying that we are bad why dont we just help one another.. after all nobody is perfect...nothings wrong if we ask you to repeat it or spell it out, what important is we give it right even if it takes a minute.. just be patient as how we are patient with the way you treat us over the phone... i still believe and very confident that we still give more accurate listings rather than the incorrect ones.. goodluck to all of us and cheers...

26 Aug 2009 10:52p.m.

stuart wrote:

to faron:

faron, as a kiwi we dont say "i wrong" u should say "im wrong" if you're a real kiwi you wont say that way.and i dont think that the filipino operator will say to a customer that you are wrong for such. they know how to listen if we will just provide them the right thing, it is not their fault if they are having a hard time understanding us, because they have a different accent. they are trying their best to give us the right number so lets respect them. IT IS NOT THEIR FAULT if 018 transferred the business to their country, they are just working to search for money same as what we are doing. filipinos never did estimated any country in the world, let us not insult anyone, we are just the same being. ive been to the philippines many times and they are a very nice and inteligent people, they can spell every word, the accent is the main problem, lets give them time, so that they get used to our accent. even the americans doesnt understand us that much, what more to the filipinos, i admire them for their patience and politeness, they know customer service. guys, RESPECT is what we can offer, we are differenet nationalities but we are all the same creations, Dont take it negatively

07 Jul 2009 06:53p.m.

david wrote:

Strange how, in a 'recession' the world gets bigger and is so much more full of 'foreigners'.
I agree with the sentiments about jobs being moved off-shore. With communications and banking, local knowledge is vital. I have heard so many pronounciations of Whangerei etc that it would be hard for a person from any other country in the world to understand. Let's not bring this debate down to the gutter level of blaming 'foreigners', the blame is squarely on the shoulders of the directors of YELLOW. The call centre staff in Manilla are obviously not being trained properly as a cost saving exercise. the same knee jerk reaction has caused the ultra right wing National Party in the UK to gain seats in an election, don't let it happen here.

07 Jul 2009 07:31a.m.

Glenn wrote:

These communication companies make huge profits every year, the only reason they do this is to make their wallets fatter at the expense of kiwi jobs.

06 Jul 2009 09:46p.m.

Faron wrote:

Last week I used the 018 service and the foreigner was useless. I was after my dentist's number while I was out and the operator couldn't spell nor understand my kiwi accent. He tried to tell me that I wrong and that my dentist didn't exist. Eventually he transfered me to NZ operator and she was fantastic and found the number in seconds.

06 Jul 2009 08:42p.m.

jason wrote:

hi i have had the same problem when i called about
my broadban. i tried even telling these people simple things like keys on my computer and they wouldn't understand what i was telling them.
because they can't see me they to to understand me.
in the end i hung up and had to work the problem out for myself. if we are going to commuacate.
we need to be on the same page.jason boyle from auckland.

06 Jul 2009 08:30p.m.

Bob wrote:

We too have been driven to the point of despair with telecommunication problems due to foreign language. Have had communication with our local MP over the matter.
It is outrageous that paying consumers should be subject to this frustration
Bob and Diane