Tame Iti, Rangi Kemara sentenced to jail

24/05/2012 12:40:54 p.m.

DB wrote:

You know, it seems to me that people like Tama Iti describe themselves as men of mana, men with the courage, integrity and selfless motivation to help their people out of "oppression" and fight for the rights of the Maori people. They purport to have a high degree of principle, morals and strength to be leaders of their people, and fight for their sovereignty. If this is the case, why do they lie, deceive and deny their blatant actions when confronted about them? "Just training for security industry"? Where is your courage to stand up and say what your "honorable" intentions really were? Where is your mana now? Instead you try and hide away from judgment, hide away from the reality that in fact although your cause is one you should maintain, your actions are wrong - and always have been.

24/05/2012 12:26:35 p.m.

LTAuckl wrote:

So s30 of the Evidence Act saves the cops again ... it was a bogus charge initially, designed to push illegally obtained evidence before the court ... Rule of Law ... whatever! So the judge in sentencing has effectively ignored the finding of the jury (and the subsequent withdrawing of the "terrorist" charges) to sentence these men as if they were found guilty of that charge. Try to find a single other person sitting in prison (out of the 8000 or so) who is there purely for firing guns in the bush. Bizarre. And wrong.

24/05/2012 12:22:21 p.m.

local kiwi wrote:

sensible decision guns and this sort of carryon apart from costing the long-suffering taxpayers more money is something that as NZers we should monitor