Teapot tapes remain under wraps

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Wed, 23 Nov 2011 6:04p.m.

Justice Winkelmann

Justice Winkelmann

By Simon Shepherd

The public will not be able to hear the contents of the “teapot tapes” before Saturday’s election.

An Auckland judge has decided not to decide on whether the conversation between John Banks and John Key was private, in case the ruling interfered with a police investigation, which is already underway.

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Within hours of the judgement, police executed search warrants on two media organisations.

Legal expert Steve Price, of Victoria University, says “it’s still an open question” whether or not the tapes are private.

“For the media, there’s no real indication about whether they should go and publish or if it’s safe for them to do so,” he says.

Freelance cameraman Bradley Ambrose, who recorded the chat, wanted the High Court to declare it a public conversation.

However, Justice Winkelmann ruled that “such a declaration will likely disrupt and confuse the conduct of the police investigation, and perhaps prejudice the administration of justice”.

Police are investigating because Mr Key laid a complaint, and the judge says that comes first.   

“I have not reached any view on whether this was a private conversation... my decision turns on the inadequacy of the evidentiary material before me... and the inappropriateness of my undertaking a mini-trial.”

Mr Key’s happy with whatever the courts decide, and says he’s got other things to do.

“I am not focussed on that – whatever it will be it will be,” he says.

Phil Goff says Mr Key’s protection of the tape has raised concerns.

“You’ve got to ask why he's gone to such lengths to protect what he said was a bland conversation,” he says.

“Why has he spent so much of the taxpayer’s money and police time, when there are some real issues to be fronted up to?”

Mr Ambrose wouldn’t comment on the decision – he and the public now have to wait for the police to decide if the conversation was private.

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24 Nov 2011 04:50a.m.

Moneyrules wrote:

This clearly shows how blind the justice is, when these wolves rule the house. Do you trust a thing any of these people say anymore...from that John Key to this so called Judge? It is a shame some idiots allow this man to get his paws on the nation’s asset!

23 Nov 2011 10:54p.m.

Nicholas wrote:

You can fool some of the people some of the time......... It is obvious that the delay in the ruling has nothing to do with the police investigation,but everything to do with John Key's losing the vote due to his comments, should the tapes be made public before the election - wonder how he will explain his comments after the election? Details will probably be surpressed, but everything comes out in the wash, just you wait.

23 Nov 2011 09:49p.m.

hote wrote:

well judge you must be on the pay roll,pity you are a female you would make a good bro for the free nasons,heil hitler,

23 Nov 2011 09:29p.m.

louise wrote:

don't worry Ed, you're too busy, but we are only saying baa'aaa'aaa anyway

23 Nov 2011 09:12p.m.

SongRemainsTheSame wrote:

A man stands OR falls on his honesty. Woops JK is laying flat on his face.

23 Nov 2011 09:07p.m.

Simon wrote:

Thank goodness John Key has the ability to take the media to court, If the media can make public any conversation they want, then the average man/woman has no privacy.By doing the right thing and standing up for himself, he is effectivly standing up for the little guy also.

23 Nov 2011 09:01p.m.

Ruz wrote:

I would have thought that the job of the Police would be limited to deciding whether the law had been broken, that is whether the tape was obtained illegally. What if no charges are laid? .

23 Nov 2011 08:31p.m.

James wrote:

I see that the media have made a mountion out of a mole hill here. Just because it makes news.
1. How can a freelance cameraman forget his tape recorder which is his bread and butter.
2. They ask the media to leave and take their tape-recorders with them which makes it a private conversation, not matter what the media bosses think.
The only reason people what to know whats on the tape is because they cant. Just like little children that you say no too.
3. Do people already know whats on the tape of course as the media have already dripped feed the public. They have already got around the law!

23 Nov 2011 06:47p.m.

ed wrote:

If I wasn't getting tax cuts (seeing as I am super rich) I would be outraged! Pity nobody in our society listens to anyone who isn't super rich!