Teenagers not happy with Nats' youth rate proposal
Fri, 28 Oct 2011 6:00p.m.
By Patrick Gower
National wants to introduce cheaper rates of pay for young workers.
John Key announced the new starting out wage today, four months after 3 News revealed National was working on the idea.
The cheaper rate of $10.40/hr will apply to some 19 and 20 year olds.
Monique Hodge-Kelly is 18-years-old and takes fast food orders for the minimum wage of $13/hr.
But under a new National government, the hourly rate for workers her age could take a drop.
Understandably, she is not impressed.
“I'm 18 and to work with people who are older… if we have the same abilities I don't see why we should be paid any less,” she says.
Today, Mr Key turned the screw on cheaper youth rates another notch.
“We need to provide every incentive to get youngsters into work. And the young people that I meet when we go round the country - what they say to me is.. ‘give me a job opportunity’.”
That means you will get paid less if you are:
And the employers Mr Key announced it to lapped it up.
But teenagers 3 news spoke to are not fans, including those not old enough to vote.
“Other people are voting about something that's going to affect me and my life and that's just not fair,” says on teenager who spoke to us.
“I don't get a say, I don't get a decision - that's not ok.”
3 News revealed National was looking at some form of cheaper youth rates back in June - at the time, the Prime Minister played it down saying “theoretically it’s a possibility”.
Labour says the policy is unfair - and it will not help the 24,000 under 20's out of work, education or training.
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1/11/2011 11:24:29 p.m.
This is stupid. I am seventeen and have just begun looking for a job, but $10.40 and hour, and that after tax is $8.84 per hour. It's crap, I'm not getting a job, I'm going to spend my time studying for NCEA, and have no money behind me for University. Screw you John, you are NOT getting my vote.
1/11/2011 7:14:24 a.m.
I disagree, merely because John Key proposes the National party reduces the minimum wage and make people worse off if their employers take advantage of the situation. This includes 'adults' aged 18-19 who are old enough to vote. National should instead increase the minimum wage for those over 18 and freeze it for youth workers as they will not stand for a potential wage cut.
31/10/2011 8:27:47 p.m.
Seriously, did half of you even read this or did you just read the pay rates. Think about it at 16-18 the majority of youths are still living with their parents and attending secondary school so why the big fuss? All you have to save up for are luxury goods such as cellphones etc unless your parents still pay that too. I think this is a good thing, as it means you have to work hard in order to get more respect and pay in your chosen work place and hell you may even have some pride in your work because you have percevered and you will be more likely to stay at one job rather than job hop and start the process all again.
31/10/2011 7:09:09 p.m.
Minimum wage is frowned upon enough as it is.
With tax, that'll give us less than $9 an hour.
If this goes through, I'll live off my student allowance instead, screw working.
30/10/2011 1:32:40 a.m.
Lower the wages to encourage people to try find jobs. Really? I think there is a bit of flawed logic there. I'm trying to get into a course next year that costs $5000 and that's not going to make it easy to pay off the loan. It's a terrible idea and is only going to serve to discourage people from searching for jobs. Businesses will take on more teenagers than adults who need to provide for families as they will have to pay them less and then get rid of them with the 90 day trial and get in new teenagers. This is just another of terrible decisions that national has made.
29/10/2011 2:36:03 p.m.
If this comes into play the young that work now and are looking for work will not bother. As on the scale of things,they will get more from Wins on the unemployment benefit accommodation allowance etc.
Its the politicians that need to be cut back.They are not accountable for their actions get high salaries expenses, and benefits. They get far to much there are to many of them.They are the ones that need looking into.
29/10/2011 11:54:38 a.m.
Keith have you ever employed a young person? I am not being self-righteous, I am being practical. Employing a young person is quite different for employing someone who has a bit more life and work experience.
29/10/2011 11:44:53 a.m.
Students allready are unable to support themselves on the current minimum wage, the current funding for students is insufficient to live on and there aren't enough hours left in the week to work while on $13 an hour. People are not paid the minimum wage because they aren't worth more, they are paid it because employers know they can get away with it and don't care that you can't live on it. A recent herald article highlights the levels of student poverty http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10761859 If the minimum wage is lowered the result will be young people forced to live on the street.
29/10/2011 10:51:28 a.m.
@ Katrina yawn what rubbish.
As a Former company director what I know is staff dont matter to employers, that what matters is the bottom line, share returns, financial expectations.
I could name one of New Zealands largest corporations which only in the last couple of months brought out their biggest competitor.. and they way they did it?.
They are a childcare business, they cut back on their food (to feed the kids0 they also stopped buying hygiene products, they also hired non trained teachers above trained teachers to save money.
They are operating their centres in such a dangerous manner.
Dont try to convince people that busieses wont fire qualified trained staff n favur of a slave labour workforce... I've seen it.
Typical National party mouthpiece.. you have nothing true to say.. so you start spinning National party nonsense.
This company is putting thousands of kids in harms way to save money... dont tell us that older employees wont be replaced with cheaper kids... its how business operate.
You really do remain remarkably ill informed of realities.
29/10/2011 12:56:12 a.m.
@Stephen - stealing more money from the worker and giving to the capitalist bludger who has hired him? Top idea.
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