The Budget's effect on low income families
Thu, 24 May 2012 7:00p.m.
A brighter future - that's what bill English promised as he delivered his Budget today.
The opposition agreed that this Budget will lead to a brighter future for many New Zealanders in Australia.
That's politics, of course they disagree with each other.
Campbell Live has spent this week looking at working families on low incomes - people doing what the Government asks of them, going to work, earning a living, paying tax, but still struggling to get by.
Will today's budget bring about a brighter future for those people?
Or was it, as Labour is suggesting, an invitation to quit your low paid job, pack your bags, and head to the nearest airport departure lounge?
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5/06/2012 7:09:52 p.m.
bandy legs we people on beifits get charged tax so no u dont pay for it mate and i am well educated jhon as i spell it is letting children our future starve i do work i work all day im sick of stereo type people like u mr know it all i was a hard worker so maybe all the money i work for can pay my benfit hahahah peoples on benfit pay tax et your fax right i can prove it ,mate and the goverment has a war on the poor he dasnt really care if you work or not koz he wants all the low income people out of nz u can judge me as you like i pay tax just like you dandy legs stop being so selfish im a childhood educater sick of seing children suffer and stereo type people like u i work fulltime looking after my children i deserve to be paid jhon key i hope you enjoy it living it up in hevan well we suffer in hell trying to make ends meat i am a taxpayer i pay tax all the time and gst on food jhon key has really done the hard work no you dont pay for my kids i do hes willing to pay me to look after other peoples kids whats the diff i work hard im not saying have kids get a benfit but there are no jobs here anyway people hello and number 2 the goverment knows thats why people are on benfits in the first place i pay tax like everyone else das
28/05/2012 7:32:48 p.m.
its like this john keys was always going to be in it for himself and the rich which now he is slowly attacking but the people that its hurting is our lil people because parents are struggle worse now than they ever have, you go to the supermarket with a calulator you never seen that 10 yrs ago food power water car rego etc are getting higher and the wages still stay a stand ... as for people on a benefit they pay tax too may not be as high as the rich but the benefit gets taxed just like people working and you saying people roll in it on the benefit i know thats not true they get enough for there living cost thats it not extra. he talks about more jobs yes there is jobs but you have to fight against 100-200 pplfor thatone job or if not that looking for people with 2-5yrs exp maybe a forces electmay take place and people will vote right this time he is ruin New Zealand and whatwe stand for a country on its own he goes on abt the debt we are in maybe if he did'nt build un nesseray and put that money into the debt wheres the world rugby cup money gone and attack education and elderly really kiwis are we going to let him ruin all we are i know more and more ppl going to leave this beauitful country becoz of whats happening sad what are we or he turning our children into they are the next to run this country
28/05/2012 7:14:01 p.m.
christine hawkins wrote:
I find it particularly annoying when this women complaining about her son being sent home because of his shoes,Are you for bloody real,with your blimin full cupboards,lcd tv,nice house and household goods that look new as,please tell me why these people are being put on tv when there are way worse situations,real poverty out there in families with working parents at that. Its so irratating watchng these people crying over thier petty misfortunes,I work 6 days a week to support my family,to get my cupboards looking like hers would take me at least 2 of my wages put together in one week.Please lady,sell your flash tv and buy him some shoes.. It is wrong but she doesnt seem poor to me.
28/05/2012 6:51:14 p.m.
I think everyone is missing the point here...KIDS ARE OUR FUTURE!!!!!!! Without kids where on earth would New Zealand's future be? Yeah sure people are having babies but who are you to judge whether they are having babies for the benefit? What evidence do you have? Just because you THINK your neighbour does, doesn’t mean that ALL women and families who have babies are out solely to get the benefit. You people really make me sick! Some people, especially from a P.I family like the one shown in the picture come to New Zealand with no qualification because MAYBE they had to stay home and care for their sick family members since they don’t have rest homes? MAYBE they had to work in the plantation to ensure their family members were fed? And the consequence? They come to New Zealand try to find a job but NO ONE would hire them. Even for the jobs that don't need the qualification. Without children there will be no need for daycares or schools. No teachers needed. No need to make children’s clothes. No need to make happy meals at McDonalds. No need for baby formulas. See where I'm heading? Everyone in this country plays a huge role in our economy. Just imagine if a child reads this? I’m encouraging my students (intermediate age) to read up on the current affairs and politics and read the comments people leave so they can get a fair idea of what the public feels. I would HATE to be a child currently living in these circumstances...to read all the hate that New Zealand has for them and their families. I want them to be informed with everything going on in politics and the country so they know what is happening in their world. I can tell that people who are being so rude and abusive to these people have NOT lived in their shoes. Maybe you should try it- trust me I know what I’m talking about...my parents struggled with little money. They came to New Zealand with NOTHING! No support from their families living here. We have six kids, Mum studied full time to get a degree and dad stayed with my younger siblings who were too young to start school (we couldn’t afford childcare) when mum came home dad went out and worked from 3.30pm to 12am (my dad doesn’t have a qualification). We would catch fish and God provided plenty for us all with one part time job and a bit if financial help from the government and the natural resources God provided. Now 2 of us are working fulltime with degrees, my brother is studying for a degree and the other three are top students at school, why? My parents made sacrifices. yes it hurt their pride to go asking for money from WINZ (it was for five years) but now we are paying back everything AND more than what we borrowed from the government with three qualified people all working for more than ten years now...do not judge people you have no idea what these children who you are slandering will be doing in the future.
28/05/2012 4:28:52 p.m.
I have worked every day since I was able to get an after school job, I have served my country with pride, I had well paid jobs and paid loads of tax, then I fell pregnant, had a child with high medical fragile needs and the father took off citing "cowardice" as the reason...and so I found myself on a Caring for Sick and Infirm benefit. Remember, this was not on the cards and I never thought this would be a part of my life. Well, now it is. I am so damn tired of being lumped in with bludgers, those who keep on having kids to remain on a benefit. Who go see their friends at WINZ and get mega bucks each week while those of us that RELY on power, phone, car etc struggle daily. And then, god forbid you need something for yourself. Nope. That wont happen. I wanted to study so I could start doing something that I could do at home or the hospital, WINZ said tough, they wont help with the fees, so a 1yr diploma ended up taking me 2 yrs, bless the Institue for being understanding and allowing it. I can do minor, casual things and it has to stay that way until god knows when because we could NOT survive if I had to rely on this work. It is too iffy. So here I am, between a rock and a hard place. I rang up winz the other day as I was spoken to very badly in the office, a lady called me back and ABUSED me, called me ungrateful, grilled me over every cent and then had the NERVE to say "you have a $20 payment going out each week, for a fine is it?" er...No, you B-word, it is for the kind dentist who is letting me pay off my large bill... Dont bash all beneficiaries, some of us are just trying to get by and get those we look after through until such a time as we can get back to work. Although I am thankful we have this CSI benefit, I do NOT appreciate being looked down upon, nor do I appreciate people bagging me for my choices in life when it is none of their business. I am a law abiding citizen, go after the ones who are raking it in. This family has love, not much else, but bless them. Those kids are missing out on their parents really, as are alot of families as the folks have no choice but to work their butts off every second of the day.
28/05/2012 3:31:02 p.m.
bandylegs: don't be ridiculous. without taxpayer support, CHILDREN WOULD STARVE. it is NOT about enabling people to have as many children as they want and fleecing you, or whatever. it is about ENSURING THAT CHILDREN DO NOT STARVE.
27/05/2012 9:55:41 p.m.
Sadly Virginia you are missing the point. This is a country where only 2.5m pay tax> This is where child support comes from, this is where benefit comes from. By all means have as many children as you want just don't expect the taxpayer to support you or your children. I don't have the right to say how many children you have but I do have the right to say I'm fed up with paying for people who continue to have children and expect the taxpayer (me) to pick up the tab. I have a neighbour who has seven kids and takes home more for sitting at home than I do for working 40 hrs a week. By the way its JOHN Key "not JHON. Perhaps education is the first step to putting NZ on the right track.
27/05/2012 4:49:54 p.m.
It is more difficult these days to save for a first home then in 1979 when we bought our first home. My husband's salary was $12000 (above average) and hour first house cost $24000. Now that that salary would probably be say $60000, but you could not buy a house for $120000. However I do notice that young people these days do want everything instantly. All the mod cons - the wanna have and not the necessities. While saving for our first house and paying off our second mortgage we did not have a telephone or television and the only new furniture was a double bed. We always budgeted the necessities on one income and the second income (mine) paid off the second mortgage. Different days but I do think that if you have the will power today you can save for a deposit - maybe takes a little longer but it is possible
26/05/2012 9:52:20 a.m.
i simply like to thank john key for making me work hard ! yeah right. TO BE HONEST NZ HAS THE WRONG JOHN IF JOHN CAMPBELL WAS TO STAND FOR PRIME MINISTER HE WILL DEFINITLY GET VOTES !
26/05/2012 8:09:28 a.m.
look at your mouth going jane how about if it was a gift do u know how hard it is to travel on a bus with kids i bet not and a taxi fromm there place to a centre would be 30 dollers now tell me who you think u r to judge honey
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