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The burqa - personal prison or religious right?

The National Assembly in France has just taken the first step into voting into law a ban on wearing veils in public (Reuters) The National Assembly in France has just taken the first step into voting into law a ban on wearing veils in public (Reuters)
Fri, 16 Jul 2010 9:45a.m.

Opinion by Kim Chisnall

Here in London a woman wearing a burqa, or niqab is a relatively common sight. You see them walking their children to school or delicately lifting their veil as they grab a bite to eat. I think it looks hot and uncomfortable but I struggle to agree with French President Nicolas Sarkozy who says they hurt the dignity of women.

The National Assembly in France has just taken the first step in voting into law a ban on wearing veils over the face in public areas. Under the new law, women who wear veils can be fined €150 ($265) or ordered to follow citizenship classes. If a husband or father is found to have been forcing a woman to wear a veil they risk a year of prison and a €30,000 ($53,000), double that if she is a minor.

It is a strong stance in a country where up to 70 percent of the population supports the ban. French MPs are adamant that veils don't belong in France - one called them "muzzles" another said they were "walking coffins".

France has the largest Muslim population in Europe - an estimated five million people in a country of just over 62 million. But detractors say in reality less than 2000 woman in France wear the full veil and this law is less about protecting women's rights and more about President Sarkozy's attempting to woo the anti-immigration far-Right.

But France is not alone. Belgium is in the process of enacting a similar law and in Britain a Conservative MP is trying to get a law passed which would ban people from wearing burqas and balaclavas. Philip Hollobone says the burqa is against the British way of life. "My constituents find it strange, unnatural, sometimes offensive and it's just not the way we do things in this country."

Well Mr Hollobone there is much to find strange, unnatural and offensive in Britain. Last weekend I travelled to Newcastle for a story. The city is the unofficial capital for stag and hen parties. Lager louts and girls with flesh straining against barely adequate lycra. It wasn't pretty and I didn't understand it and while I wasn't exactly offended you see my point.

I'm not trying to trivialise the issue but if the state wants to interfere with how people dress they should be prepared to offer more of an argument than Mr Hollobone's rather staid - it's just not British.

A stronger argument was given by French politician Berengere Poletti who said the face covering veil is a prison for women: "They are the sign of their submission to their husbands, brothers or fathers."

But uncomfortably for Poletti many young Muslim women are vocal in their insistence that it is their choice to wear the burqa. Does that make them women prisoners of their own free will?

Am I missing something here? Can somebody give me a strong argument for banning the burqa?

Melissa Davies is based in London as TV3's Europe Correspondent. When she's not travelling all over the continent, she is slowly adjusting to life in the northern hemisphere.

 

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Comments [56]

Nab
11 Jul 2011 10:20a.m.

This is a can of worms!! It is clear to me that their face veil comes down to choice. Often the choices of the women who wear them is limited, and sometimes there is little choice, if that's what they HAVE to wear if they want to go out. BUT! Here in NZ the face veil should not be worn. Women here in NZ are encouraged to speak and be leaders. Covering the face and mouth mutes these women. I'm fine with the head covering. Sometimes I wear a scarf...especially when its cold!! It's not about stopping people's choice, it's about an established and acceptable standard for all new Zealand residents...and visitors. They chose to come to NZ !! ...and knowing that they would have to accept some differences to everyday things. Likewise, If I chose to live in their country...I would have to conform to a certain way of dress as acceptable in that country. Perhaps there needs to be a stronger emphasis made upon their entry into New Zealand of our general culture and dress.

Jade
24 Jan 2011 03:38p.m.

As a New Zealand woman whose ancestry has been here for many generations I have no problem with women wearing headscarf. Other traditional religious groups expect their women to wear head coverings as well but usually in a place of worship not in public places. I think that people tend to forget that even though we are a tolerate society we have our own culture and values and we should be sticking up for those things. Yes women can wear what they want but it is why they are wearing the burqa that is the issue. I am not an expert on their culture but if it represents oppression then it has no place in our society. The women of this country fought against oppression and allowing this into our society goes against everything those women fought for.

Naima
15 Oct 2010 11:43a.m.

@ Scot, are you an athiestt? who had created you? did science? and who is science? mother nature? who is mother nature? what is the purpose of LIFE! to work, marry have kids, live life? what does living life even mean? Islam answers all these questions and MANY MORE. God is great you wont realise till your dead 8 feet under screaming for forgiveness from god, go ahead live your life now but the hearafter is greater!, anyways I can write a whole article about the miracles of the HOLY quran it isnt a book, itz a miracle but i have no time so just go to http://www.islamic-world.net for more info. Allahu'Akbar

Naima
15 Oct 2010 11:43a.m.

@ Scot, are you an athiestt? who had created you? did science? and who is science? mother nature? who is mother nature? what is the purpose of LIFE! to work, marry have kids, live life? what does living life even mean? Islam answers all these questions and MANY MORE. God is great you wont realise till your dead 8 feet under screaming for forgiveness from god, go ahead live your life now but the hearafter is greater!, anyways I can write a whole article about the miracles of the HOLY quran it isnt a book, itz a miracle but i have no time so just go to http://www.islamic-world.net for more info. Allahu'Akbar

scott
02 Aug 2010 10:37p.m.

@Naima
"STOP WATCHING FOX NEWS, CNN, ABC OR BY any media that put down islam because it is mainstreamed by ignorant patriotic people like you! Learn about islam more before commenting about, Sadly you are very very very VERY MISTAKEN BECAUSE ISLAM IS the right religion and i am saying that with much respect in other religion. Allahu'akbar "

Im sorry but If your'e calling people ignorant and telling them to read your book maybe you should practice what you preach, stop being so ignorant and read a science book.
There is more to this argument than burqa's, you say all religions apart from yours are wrong? why in particular have you chosen yours? did you choose it? or was it drummed into you as a child.
Think rationally, if your god is the only god then why did he make so many other religions? why did he bother with the 95% of species that went extinct before humans evolved?
God is not great.

Irene
02 Aug 2010 12:03p.m.

All good points people and the rights of people to choose is important, however one of the most important reasons for not having people cover their face is to not cover their identity. The same reason you must remove a motorbike helmet when you walk into a bank. People need to be recognised. Anyone can hide under a Burka, do something really bad and then blame anyone else who may be wearing a burka. Taking away peoples identity is damaging to themselves and the rest of society.

Naima
31 Jul 2010 07:58p.m.

Excuse me Anna you have stepped over the line in disrespecting the Muslim societies in an unfriendly and arrogant manner possible. By you saying "Islam is THE most "narrow minded" culture"- is exactly who you are. You have just described your personality in two words "narrow minded. And for your information and anyone out there who believes her claim that the Holy Quran says to murder 'everyone of (you) infidels" YOU ARE WRONG! i almost hysterically laughed at this. Have you read the Quran, well i have! and there isn't such claims unless with purpose such as wars,OFCOURSE..DUH! . exactly who are the infidels? people in general or are u indicating the christians and jews, it doesnt make a difference THERE ISNT SUCH CLAIM! .This brings me back to the word 'islam' which perfectly means peace STOP WATCHING FOX NEWS, CNN, ABC OR BY any media that put down islam because it is mainstreamed by ignorant patriotic people like you! Learn about islam more before commenting about, Sadly you are very very very VERY MISTAKEN BECAUSE ISLAM IS the right religion and i am saying that with much respect in other religion. Allahu'akbar

Naima Ali
31 Jul 2010 07:51p.m.

Excuse me Anna you have stepped over the line in disrespecting the Muslim societies in an unfriendly and arrogant manner possible. By you saying "Islam is THE most "narrow minded" culture"- is exactly who you are. You have just described your personality in two words "narrow minded. And for your information and anyone out there who believes her claim that the Holy Quran says to murder 'everyone of (you) infidels" YOU ARE WRONG! i almost hysterically laughed at this. Have you read the Quran, well i have! and there isn't such claims unless with purpose such as wars,OFCOURSE..DUH! . exactly who are the infidels? people in general or are u indicating the christians and jews, it doesnt make a difference THERE ISNT SUCH CLAIM! .This brings me back to the word 'islam' which perfectly means peace STOP WATCHING FOX NEWS, CNN, ABC OR BY any media that put down islam because it is mainstreamed by ignorant patriotic people like you!

Naima Ali
31 Jul 2010 07:48p.m.

Excuse me Anna you have stepped over the line in disrespecting the Muslim societies in an unfriendly and arrogant manner possible. By you saying "Islam is THE most "narrow minded" culture"- is exactly who you are. You have just described your personality in two words "narrow minded. And for your information and anyone out there who believes her claim that the Holy Quran says to murder 'everyone of (you) infidels" YOU ARE WRONG! i almost hysterically laughed at this. Have you read the Quran, well i have! and there isn't such claims unless with purpose such as wars,OFCOURSE..DUH! . exactly who are the infidels? people in general or are u indicating the christians and jews, it doesnt make a difference THERE ISNT SUCH CLAIM! .This brings me back to the word 'islam' which perfectly means peace STOP WATCHING FOX NEWS, CNN, ABC OR BY any media that put down islam because it is mainstreamed by ignorant patriotic people like you!

Anna
26 Jul 2010 06:30p.m.

Pete - "NZers and our western countries unfortnately can be very narrow minded when they are confronted with different cultures"- Islam is THE most "narrow minded" culture; the Koran clearly orders Muslims to murder every one of us infidels, there is no room for tolerance for any difference from them at all. And of course these poor women claim they choose to wear the veil - it is drummed into them from birth how much shame the sight of their bodies bring on themselves and their families. It is not their fault, or the fault of the men in their lives - they are merely doing their best to please their god. Sadly, they are very, very mistaken in their beliefs.

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