World leaders support plan to delay climate change pact

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Mon, 16 Nov 2009 6:12a.m.

Danish Prime Minister Lars Lokke Rasmussen

Danish Prime Minister Lars Lokke Rasmussen

Hopes for a global climate change deal have taken a big hit, with leaders at the APEC summit failing to agree on targets for reducing emissions.
 
World leaders, including New Zealand's John Key, are supporting a plan to delay a legally binding climate change pact until at least 2010 under a compromise deal for next month's Copenhagen summit.
 
US President Barack Obama has conceded there will not be a global deal on cutting greenhouse gas emissions at next month's climate change summit in Copenhagen.
 
Obama is now backing a proposal for a two-stage plan which would seek general consensus in Copenhagen and delay the signing of a legal agreement until next year at the earliest.

Danish Prime Minister Lars Lokke Rasmussen has presented the alternative plan to the leaders at the Asia Pacific summit in Singapore.

A US negotiator says there was an assessment by leaders at the APEC summit that it was unrealistic to expect a full, internationally legally binding agreement to be negotiated by next month.

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08 Dec 2009 03:35p.m.

dan wrote:

The science is rigged. Has been for decades. Google climategate or visit climateaudit.org or junkscience.com or climatescience.org.nz for more details. I've studied this issue and found years ago that opposing viewpoints to the "CO2 is bad" camp were being suppressed. With climategate we can see the lengths they were going to in order to suppress people like NZ's Vincent Grey - expert reviewer of the IPCC literature. Vincent Gray has been working in our best interests for years and the brainwashed lefties refer to him as a representative of the fossil fuel industry. We must have the ETS overturned, it will destroy our farming industry. Greanpeace are outing themselves as the enemy of humanity.

29 Nov 2009 09:00p.m.

Maxwells wrote:

What happen to "Global Warming"? Now it's "climate change" next it will be "annoying weather".

Let's get over this crisis talk, it's all about creating new taxes and revenue.

Have you noticed you can't even find any 2009 satellite images of the melting sea ice at the Arctic region? That's because its returning at levels not seen in 30 years. Google for yourself.

17 Nov 2009 10:57p.m.

annon wrote:

Where are all the polluted rivers in NZ?. Just a another generalized GreenPeace propaganda sound bite!. What's that got to do with the Carbon Tax fool. I don't understand GP support for the Copenhagen agenda, its nothing to do with cleaning up the environment. Its all about TAX, Now I have a theory that no matter how rich anyone gets from TAXing the world's population to stop CO2 production, No PERSON would be so heartless enough to bankrupt everyone , So I believe that Aliens have taken over the governments of the world because they can't live in a CO2 rich world.. It makes more sense than CO2 causing GlobalWarming/crime/cooling/change or whatever GP want to call it!.

16 Nov 2009 06:45p.m.

Kelly wrote:

LOL Cyril, we already have messy MUDDLED politics so grass huts won't hurt because Greenpeace can fight with recycleable battons?

16 Nov 2009 06:08p.m.

cyril wrote:

Hey Hutt-Guy where did you get that drivel from. Your not a card carrying member of Greenpeace by any chance. If we follow your ideas we'll be back living in mud hutts hitting each other over the heads with stone clubs.

16 Nov 2009 05:40p.m.

Hutt_Guy wrote:

Kelly, you should read what I said.. I said that there was more science that supported climate change than didnt, and that the maths involed was simple.. less forests.. less plants.. more pollution.

Jim, people can always go back to building there own homes, and walk even.

Business should be paying because just as one example food prices in the last few years have sky rocketed by nearly 50 percent.. meaning business has been ripping us off for years.. time for them to cut into their own profit margins and fix what is actually substantially their own fault.

Government could implement a price freeze as they have in previous decades.. insuring that business didnt try to pass the cost onto normal consumers.

But this government will only implement a wage freeze.. which benefits business, they dont have the balls to stop business ripping us off.

16 Nov 2009 05:29p.m.

Rex wrote:

This is so funny. Hutt_Guy you've got your facts a little muddled up. Im curious as to where you got the figure of 3 to 1 against climate change. From all the research Ive done Ive found the complete opposite to be true. The concensus that was reached supporting climate change was first reached by the IPCC which is made up of about 2,500 scientists which I might add are made up mostly of bureaucrats and very few of that group are actually climate change experts. On the other hand if you do just a little bit of reading even on the web you will find that in America alone there are over 31,000 scientists (at last count) with over 9,000 PH.D.s in fields such as atmospheric science, climatology, Earth science that heavily oppose the claims that man made CO2 is responsible for climate change. One more point... Does anybody here realise that what they are signing in copenhagen has nothing to do with reducing CO2 but instead lays out the foundation to tax for CO2 use? Look into that a little and you will understand the hoax being pulled off right under our noses. Al Gore and many other politicians stand to make billions off of this scheme and I can gurantee you that none of that money will go to the so called countries that are heavily affected by climate change. All this will cause is the continual shutdown of NZ businesses which in turn will result in more jobs being shipped off to overseas locations where the labor is much cheaper to compensate for the extra costs of this carbon tax. The end results... More unemployment, higher costs of living and ultimately still the same amount if not more CO2 being pumped into the atmosphere. In other words we will have the exact same problems of so called climate change caused by man made CO2 but Al Gore will be alot richer and you will be paying alot more for your bread, eggs, milk, cheese etc. Just doesnt make sense to me and Im not a business owner. Im just an ordinary 40 hour a week, $30k per annum salary earner.

16 Nov 2009 05:24p.m.

psycthom wrote:

Kelly I think you're talking about helium.

Sucking Co2 out of a balloon will only make you oxygen deprived.

It would be mildly hilarious if helium was a byproduct of human emissions

16 Nov 2009 04:57p.m.

Jim wrote:

Hutt_Guy. There is only one floor in your submission. Without agriculture and business, there is no food, tavel and shelter.
Also, creating another tax is not going to fix anything and will certainly not slow down business as we have an ever increasing and demanding population to cater for. This will only put more money into inefficient Govt Depts (ACC) and make us a little more broke and I have a big enough hole in my pocket already!!!

16 Nov 2009 04:46p.m.

Kelly wrote:

So Hutt_Guy are you trying to say all the politicions should get recycled for wasting tax payers 'time on Co2 FOOTPRINTS? Because global warming is a hoax or an unproved DELEMA. Maybe the Govt should just look after there own clean GREEN backyards? Instead of shifting the blame onto a measurable Global footprint. Ask China if they agree?