You probably haven’t heard Judson Laipply's name before, but Judson ruled YouTube before Justin Bieber did.
Judson is a motivational speaker, and in 1996 he uploaded a video called "The Evolution of Dance".
It was YouTube's first big, proper hit – and while he has been surpassed by the pop stars of today, Judson's kept a keen eye on the internet and what it all means.
David Farrier sat down with YouTube's first sensation.
Watch the video.